WC: 2017 whc Cologne/Paris. Tickets, accommodation etc

Friar85

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I am not American, but it would be pretty shocking if a significant number of American fans attended. From what I can gather most American hockey fans don't know or care about this tournament.

My group will be the exception! There will be four of us in Cologne for the games against Latvia and Slovakia and then we swing to Paris to see Canada play Norway and France play Slovenia. I have an irrational (for an American) love for this tournament. Love seeing guys rock the U.S. jersey that otherwise never would (Patrick Maroon forever!) and love seeing guys from the KHL, DEL SHL, Ligue Magnus, etc. that I would never see play otherwise. May try to catch a quarterfinal if US make it.
 

Xokkeu

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My group will be the exception! There will be four of us in Cologne for the games against Latvia and Slovakia and then we swing to Paris to see Canada play Norway and France play Slovenia. I have an irrational (for an American) love for this tournament. Love seeing guys rock the U.S. jersey that otherwise never would (Patrick Maroon forever!) and love seeing guys from the KHL, DEL SHL, Ligue Magnus, etc. that I would never see play otherwise. May try to catch a quarterfinal if US make it.

Hey shoot me a message which games you guys are going to.
 

Xokkeu

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I know what you mean. Still, I hear lots of Canadians whining about this tournament and they still show up in pretty large numbers anyways. Just thought that maybe something similar would happen with the Americans.

Are there still a lot of Americans living in Germany like from the cold war era?

The US maintains one of it's largest military presences in Germany. There's tons of Americans there. Whether they show up to the Worlds is another question.

As an American who regularly attends these things, I am usually the one of the only ones.
 

JackSlater

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I know what you mean. Still, I hear lots of Canadians whining about this tournament and they still show up in pretty large numbers anyways. Just thought that maybe something similar would happen with the Americans.

Are there still a lot of Americans living in Germany like from the cold war era?

It just seems like the tournament is essentially a non-entity in USA. I believe taht the situation is different than with Canada. Canadians aren't big fans of the tournament, but there are more hockey fans and they at least know the tournament exists. I don't quite understand what you mean about Americans living in Germany since the cold war, but take that number, then the relatively small percentage of Americans who are hockey fans, and then the small percentage of that group, and that's your number I guess.

My group will be the exception! There will be four of us in Cologne for the games against Latvia and Slovakia and then we swing to Paris to see Canada play Norway and France play Slovenia. I have an irrational (for an American) love for this tournament. Love seeing guys rock the U.S. jersey that otherwise never would (Patrick Maroon forever!) and love seeing guys from the KHL, DEL SHL, Ligue Magnus, etc. that I would never see play otherwise. May try to catch a quarterfinal if US make it.

Enjoy.
 

Xokkeu

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It just seems like the tournament is essentially a non-entity in USA. I believe taht the situation is different than with Canada. Canadians aren't big fans of the tournament, but there are more hockey fans and they at least know the tournament exists. I don't quite understand what you mean about Americans living in Germany since the cold war, but take that number, then the relatively small percentage of Americans who are hockey fans, and then the small percentage of that group, and that's your number I guess.



Enjoy.

It's been gaining traction a bit. At least most hockey fans know it exists. Whereas like ten years ago I bet more NHL fans in the US didn't.
 

Xokkeu

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Interesting, are games shown on tv now?

They are on NBC Sports, which is the NHL broadcaster. Of course the biggest issue is that they are in the middle of they but I've at least found my hockey fan friends mentioning it recently.

The other issue is that the US consistently sends the ********* team (relatively to it's player pool).
 

Jeb99

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It just seems like the tournament is essentially a non-entity in USA. I believe taht the situation is different than with Canada. Canadians aren't big fans of the tournament, but there are more hockey fans and they at least know the tournament exists. I don't quite understand what you mean about Americans living in Germany since the cold war, but take that number, then the relatively small percentage of Americans who are hockey fans, and then the small percentage of that group, and that's your number I guess.



Enjoy.

If I would live abroad I would take every chance I got to see Swedish team come to play even if the sport itself didn't interested me that much. That's what I mean.

If there wouldn't be many Americans living there chances they'd be at the game would decrease. Simple logic.
 

Jeb99

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They are on NBC Sports, which is the NHL broadcaster. Of course the biggest issue is that they are in the middle of they but I've at least found my hockey fan friends mentioning it recently.

The other issue is that the US consistently sends the ********* team (relatively to it's player pool).


We have had the same problem for many years. Last year we had enough players that said 'no thank 'to fill a team on their own.

This tournaments popularity might increase amongst players if the Olympics will be played without nhlers.
 

Xokkeu

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If I would live abroad I would take every chance I got to see Swedish team come to play even if the sport itself didn't interested me that much. That's what I mean.

If there wouldn't be many Americans living there chances they'd be at the game would decrease. Simple logic.

There's a lot of Americans in Germany so I expect we'll see more than we saw in Russia. But it still won't be a lot.
 

Xokkeu

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We have had the same problem for many years. Last year we had enough players that said 'no thank 'to fill a team on their own.

This tournaments popularity might increase amongst players if the Olympics will be played without nhlers.

It might also decrease actually. A lot of North American players sort of get guilted into playing in the tournament as a carrot to play in the Olympics.
 

thecedex

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I am considering watching the games in Cologne since it's only an hour away from where I am from. I do like the teams a lot more in Cologne such as Sweden, Russia, and The United States but Paris has Canada.

Urgh

I am considering attending the Semi-Finals though the tickets for those games are very steep. So if I have some spare vacation leaves I plan to attend to watch the games in Paris at May 13th then fly to Cologne at the 16th. I dunno my plan yet.

Hello friends and furiers!
How much is the beer in Germany?
If anyone Could explain how the public transportation works there too that would be much appreciated.

Thanks. And see you in Cologne!

I've only been in Cologne once but from my experience all the important areas can be reached via walking distance. The Cathedral, Arena, River, Shopping, Old Town, and Bars are all reachable via walking. So I didn't use public transportation at all. I am also sure you will find accommodations nearby (I noticed there were a lot of hotels around the central station and cathedral)

As for Beer 3 to 4.5 Euros can get me a 0.5 L beer that part of Germany. My colleague who went to Sweden said that beer in Sweden is expensive so, I guess you can use that as a reference point :)
 

SaltNPeca

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Hello, I live here in the inner city of Cologne, play hockey here, and am volunteering for the IIHF WC 2017. I'll try to answer some questions, but feel free to PM me or ask more.

Paris > Cologne?
- I'd take a Thalys train Gare du Nord to Köln Hbf (main station). It's more than other trains, but fast and comfortable. There would be other trains or cheapo buses (check out FlixBus as low as 5 Euros).

Beer?
Our local beer is called Kölsch (like the local dialect). It is traditionally served in 200ml glass which should be refilled quickly. In a pub 1-1.70 Euro. In a bar 2-2.5 Euro. In a Kiosk 1.20-1.50 for 500ml. In a grocery store 0.50 to 1.20 Euro.
A larger Pilsner or Weizen beer could be more like 3-4 Euro.
You don't need to tip.
You can drink on the streets, in the park, ... as you wish.

Logistics?
Near the Hbf (main station) are a bunch of big hotels, but transportation here is great so consider other areas.
The arena is in Deutz, maybe 2km over the main bridge from Hbf and easily accessible via. 5 Ubahn lines and also Sbahn lines (EASY!).
Just South of Hbf is the big Cathedral (Dom) and continuing South on the river is Altstadt (old town) and Heumarkt (Haymarket). Lots of food and pubs in there, but will be all the WC people and tourists. Just off the river is Hohe Str. (High street) which is loaded with shops.
On "the ring" are also tons of bars and restaurants, also clubs.
Friesen Str. near Friesenplatz is a cool party street including a Irish Pub (Jamesons) that is a bit expensive, but quite popular.
Zülpicher Str. near Barbarossa Platz is a great party street, more of a Uni crowd.
Ehrenfeld is more of a "Brooklyn-type" neighborhood with lots of trendy restaurants, clubs, bars, etc.
Aachener Str has door after door of restaurants (just walk West from Rudolf Platz).
"Belgian Quarter" is another gem of a neighborhood with more local nightlife and weekend hangout at the Brusseler Platz (for the more chill among you).

Transportation?
KVB is the Cologne transit authority. They have an office in the UBahn station connected to Hbf. Also at Neumarkt (inside the Neumarkt Passage underground).
You can buy day tickets which would be the easiest.
Single journey is maybe 1.90 Euro.
Lots of people "black ride" which means just walk on. This works when it's super busy.
If you have a ticket for a sporting even the KVB transportation to and from is normally included.

Stay?
On the cheap side you can go for a hostel. Example: A&O Hostel Köln near Neumarkt. Easy to get to Deutz on the Ubahn.
Air BnB are everywhere. Near Barbarossaplatz you might find cheaper or more available accommodation. There are 4 Ubahn lines there and another 2 at Post Str. to take you anywhere.

Other activities?
EL-DE-Haus is an old Gestapo HQ, now National Socialism museum.
There are several big museums near the Cathedral (Art, German/Roman, Praetorium, etc.).
Climb the Cathedral Tower.
Hang out in a park > Rheinpark, Stadgarten, Volksgarten, Aachener Weiher, ...
Stroll or bike down the Rhine (go South).
Take a Rhine cruise.
Take a car for a tour of castles, vineyards, and old towns on the Rhine or Mosel rivers. Go to Koblenz area and South.
Short train ride to Konigswinter then up to see the Castle at Drachenfels.
See the medieval gates at Ebert Platz (Eigelstein), Rudolf Platz, and Severins Platz.
Go to a German sauna > Claudius Therme, Neptunbad, Mauritius Therme
Check out the "bermuda triangle" Gay area near Rudolf Platz (Schaafenstraße) or behind Heumarkt
Huge brothel > Pascha
Check out Nürburgring (only 80km from Cologne), drive thru the Eifel region, and/or drive on an Autobahn (A555 to Bonn and A4 to Aachen have no speed limit areas).
 

Jeb99

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Wow less than 70 days to go! I was looking at team Sweden roster from last year and I really hope that we will have a better team this year or else we might even lose against Germany. Too many players from Europe and just a few younger from the nhl. When they come to play in tournaments like thid we get to see why some guys aren't playing in the nhl even they perform well in shl, Swiss league or even Khl.

Team Canada had a few really good players but compared to 2015 edition it was nothing. Still they ended first place with is really impressing. Too bad Canadas playing in Paris abs I won't be able too see them this year. Sorta hoping the US will get some of their better players.
 

Friar85

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Single game tickets go on sale this Friday (10th) at 10am venue time.
 

Jeb99

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I'm gonna try to get single tickets for swe rus. I have tickets in the upper bowl for both games on opening day but would rather be closer to the ice at least on swe rus game.

Does anyone know if it would be hard to sell the one I have already in the upper bowl?I am thinking of trying a site called viagogo and will sell it there or outside the arena at a reduced price.
Would it be best outside the arena or at a website you think?
 

Atas2000

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I'm gonna try to get single tickets for swe rus. I have tickets in the upper bowl for both games on opening day but would rather be closer to the ice at least on swe rus game.

Does anyone know if it would be hard to sell the one I have already in the upper bowl?I am thinking of trying a site called viagogo and will sell it there or outside the arena at a reduced price.
Would it be best outside the arena or at a website you think?

I'd go with the website for now. See you at the game.;)
 

Xokkeu

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I'm gonna try to get single tickets for swe rus. I have tickets in the upper bowl for both games on opening day but would rather be closer to the ice at least on swe rus game.

Does anyone know if it would be hard to sell the one I have already in the upper bowl?I am thinking of trying a site called viagogo and will sell it there or outside the arena at a reduced price.
Would it be best outside the arena or at a website you think?

I personally would try to sell on viagogo. Not sure standing outside the stadium hawking your ticket would be much fun. And I dunno German laws but in the US many states have laws against standing in front of the stadium and selling tickets. Russia people got busted at the Olympics. I know this because I talked my way out of getting busted for buying tickets to USA Russia.
 

Proust*

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I love Köln.. had the pleasure of being there during Karneval once. Definitely a funner place than Paris :)
 

Jeb99

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Sweden Russia was nearly sold out when I tried at 10.00. Did only find single tickets in block 600ish. At 10.05 all sections were booked. Whc should be played more often!
 

Phaneufed

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This is a great post man. Used to live in Köln for 9 months and you covered pretty much everything. I was shocked at how great the hockey culture is here (as a Canadian). Kölner Haie games are louder and just as full as some of the Flames games I've been to in my life.

I would definitely recommending visiting Cologne if people are hesitant or on the fence about it... amazing party place and fantastic people.
 

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