WC: 2017 Team Finland

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illone84

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The lineup seems pretty straight forward considering the NHL standings stay as they are.

Laine-Barkov-Aho - This one is locked first line. I wonder why most posters haven't had this in their lineup
Jokinen-Filppula-MA Granlund
Rantanen-Teräväinen-Armia
Pyörälä-Kemppainen-Savinainen
+Koskiranta/Haapala/Aaltonen/Sallinen/Hartikainen/Pillu

Lindell-Risto
Lepistö-Hietanen
Ohtamaa-Honka
+Pokka/Salmela/Jaakola/Kukkonen/Kivistö

Koskinen
Lehtonen/Niemi
Rämö/Ortio/Säteri/Metsola

I have a pretty good feeling that Filppula will decline, and perhaps, although less likely, Jokinen too.

As previously mentioned, Teräväinen needs to get his next contract set up. He might not make it. Also, I would like to see Pulju make it over.
 

QnebO

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The lineup seems pretty straight forward considering the NHL standings stay as they are.

Laine-Barkov-Aho - This one is locked first line. I wonder why most posters haven't had this in their lineup
Jokinen-Filppula-MA Granlund
Rantanen-Teräväinen-Armia
Pyörälä-Kemppainen-Savinainen
+Koskiranta/Haapala/Aaltonen/Sallinen/Hartikainen/Pillu

Lindell-Risto
Lepistö-Hietanen
Ohtamaa-Honka
+Pokka/Salmela/Jaakola/Kukkonen/Kivistö

Koskinen
Lehtonen/Niemi
Rämö/Ortio/Säteri/Metsola

I think your lineup is solid. You kept Jokinen out of Barkov - Laine line, which is good. THe World Cup did show Jokinen won't work with Laine. Also in Florida, Barkov - Jokinen actually are not that complementing duo, Barkov has been dragging Jokinen with the fact that Barkov is an excellent player when they played together. Jokinen is a good player, but it has been shown it doesn't work and he perhaps even slows down our two best players, Laine and Barkov.

Jokinen's place must be somewhere else. Put JJ in a line, where he actually deserves to be the "-go trough and -go to" -guy. Pat and Barkov shall be let to dominate with the puck, if they make up a line. Third link in that line can be some cargo train, net front presence, defensive type guy or a pass first playmaker.

I think we should hope for Pulju in the lineup, though. Putting Pula-Aho together would be awesome and it really can work the magic on this level, no doubt.

If Pulju is out, Laine-Barkov-Aho is sexy as hell, too.
 
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Newforce

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The lineup seems pretty straight forward considering the NHL standings stay as they are.

Laine-Barkov-Aho - This one is locked first line. I wonder why most posters haven't had this in their lineup
Jokinen-Filppula-MA Granlund
Rantanen-Teräväinen-Armia
Pyörälä-Kemppainen-Savinainen
+Koskiranta/Haapala/Aaltonen/Sallinen/Hartikainen/Pillu

Lindell-Risto
Lepistö-Hietanen
Ohtamaa-Honka
+Pokka/Salmela/Jaakola/Kukkonen/Kivistö

Koskinen
Lehtonen/Niemi
Rämö/Ortio/Säteri/Metsola


Seems like Lindell and Teräväinen are out due to contract situations.

http://yle.fi/urheilu/3-9515617
 

FiLe

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You guys think one of or both Haapala/Aaltonen will make it?
Assuming you mean Miro and not JMA, he's probably the first European skater to make this team. Has been simply too stellar on EHT to ignore. Unless there's a huge influx of NHLers to fill the top-9, his chances are better than good.

With Haapala, I guess it somewhat depends on how badly they're going to be in need of designated scorers. If all of those who are projected to come from overseas actually do show up, he'll be an extra forward at best.

Of course, you rarely, if ever, get everyone who looks like he could show up. (Incidentally, last year was such an anomaly, so it's interesting to see, in comparison, how lucky we'll be now.)
 

illone84

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Assuming you mean Miro and not JMA, he's probably the first European skater to make this team. Has been simply too stellar on EHT to ignore. Unless there's a huge influx of NHLers to fill the top-9, his chances are better than good.

With Haapala, I guess it somewhat depends on how badly they're going to be in need of designated scorers. If all of those who are projected to come from overseas actually do show up, he'll be an extra forward at best.

Of course, you rarely, if ever, get everyone who looks like he could show up. (Incidentally, last year was such an anomaly, so it's interesting to see, in comparison, how lucky we'll be now.)

Thanks File. Yep, I meant Miro.

I'm interested to see how this guy will do. I didn't watch the EHT games, and haven't watched any KHL games but his stats look pretty good.

That being said, personally I'm more interested in Miro than in Haapala.
 

BusQuets

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Both Aaltonen and Haapala should make the team. They are probably the best Finns playing in Europe and probably better than some in the NHL.
 

Mestaruus

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Could be that Jokinen comes to captain this team but not gonna hold it against him if he declines as he comes so often.

Filppula is the exact opposite as he hasn't really been in WHC, if he declines it's due to the World Cup. Two tournaments in one season might be too much for him. I still feel like he might be coming.

Oh and someone said TT isn't coming to WHC but he had said in interview that he wants to come despite of contract ending, but what was also said was that his agent might change his mind on that matter. So it's still up in the air whether he comes or not. Maybe Aho probably joining is an extra motivator for him as they can stay in same line again.
 

FiLe

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MaG due for immediate wrist surgery, meaning his season is a wrap, won't be available.
 

kunekune

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Both Aaltonen and Haapala should make the team. They are probably the best Finns playing in Europe and probably better than some in the NHL.

As a Tappara fan I have to say that Savinainen is better overall player than Haapala. As a playmaker and especially as powerplay playmaker Haapala is just too good for Liiga but will he get that spot in WHC?
 

Eye of Ra

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We should not look at age. Tomi Kallio is playing some good hockey and could be a good option for the 4th line.
 

FiLe

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Some good news for defense: Honka says he wants to go, despite being contractless.

http://yle.fi/urheilu/3-9521136


Best case scenario as of right now:

Lehtonen
Koskinen
Läski-Salonen

Ristolainen
Lepistö
Hietanen
Honka
Kivistö
Kukkonen
Ohtamaa
Some Warm Body

Laine - Barkov - Rantanen
Jokinen - Filppula - Aho
Mi.Aaltonen - Kontiola - Armia
Savinainen - Kemppainen - Osala
+T.Sallinen, Haapala
 
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illone84

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Some good news for defense: Honka says he wants to go, despite being contractless.

http://yle.fi/urheilu/3-9521136


Best case scenario as of right now:

Lehtonen
Koskinen
Läski-Salonen

Ristolainen
Lepistö
Hietanen
Honka
Kivistö
Kukkonen
Ohtamaa
Some Warm Body

Laine - Barkov - Rantanen
Jokinen - Filppula - Aho
Mi.Aaltonen - Kontiola - Armia
Savinainen - Kemppainen - Osala
+T.Sallinen, Haapala

I'm really hoping Honka can make it. We need this kid on the PP.
 

Jarey Curry

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Granlund - Barkov - Rantanen everybody's tearing it up in the nhl on these player positions. All known for their playmaking but have scored 61 goals combined this season in the nhl. 1a/1b line
Laine - Aho - Puljujärvi 1a/1b offensive line, wonder trio's second coming
Jokinen - Koivu - Filppula "2nd line" takes most of the defensive pressure for the team and plays as much as the top lines.
Armia - Lehterä - Teräväinen/Pulkkinen
Kinda utopistic line ups and would only happen if all these players get banned from the NHL.
 

illone84

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With the way minni is playing right now perhaps they will drop after the first round.
Personally, I hope they can go far! :handclap:
 

JabbaJabba

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I'm excited about the lineup Finland could have but then I remember who is the coach and my hopes come down quickly.
 

Sanf

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I have a gut feeling that we are going to get disapointed if we expect lot of NHLers to come. Contract issues, minor injuries (and other excuses :) ). Times that guys like Ruuttu and Numminen came to WHC´s with the first plane when their team was relegated has gone.

I think M. Aaltonen, Haapala and Savinainen has earned their spots in team. Then there are the always solid options of Pyörälä and Pihlström.

To defence. I guess I´m boring, but Lepistö, Hietanen, Kukkonen (If he is interested), Ohtamaa (I think he improves every year). Honka would be interesting to see, but he needs to earn it in camp. I know that people will hate this, but it would be nice to see Mäntylä get a chance :) (If he isn´t "retired" from NT). Elorinne and Mikkola are the most intriguing new possibilities.

From goalies Lehtonen and Niemi doesn´t excite me. They have been in difficult spot in Dallas, but in all honesty both of them have few down years already. I don´t believe that they would be big upgrade to our European core. Metsola haven´t been that good in NT lately, but I really do like him. Not a huge fan of Koskinen, but he proved to be decent option last year.
 
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