That's exactly what happened in game 1, "but their players were faster and more skilled with the puck."
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That's exactly what happened in game 1, "but their players were faster and more skilled with the puck."
Unfriendly Ghost
Kasper
I didn't really think so, TBH. They won a lot of board battles because Carolina was fairly careless defensively and with the puck, but I didn't see anything from the Wings in game 1 that would make me think they're playing a skilled type of hockey. They played dump and chase that game, for the most part.
So in the game in which they dominated possession and shots by playing a pro style system that's a negative because the other team was was faster and more skilled? That makes no sense.
Red Stanley
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If you follow your own logic, you should be extremely happy with their showing against Carolina. That game looked like Det vs Col from the late 90's. We had triple the shots and the vast majority of possession, but they scored off the rush. Though our goalie wasn't great, 4 out of their 6 goals were a screen shot on the PP, 2 on 1 where the dman didn't cover the pass (ie an empty net tap in), a breakaway and an empty net with the goalie pulled. To say they beat us with more skill/speed is just laughably inaccurate.
Red Stanley
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Debrincat with the toe drag and game winning goal. Chicago's skill is on display with their breakouts, nice crisp tape to tape passes. They pass/carry the puck into the offensive zone and look organized and skilled. Looks like they are on the power play in the offensive zone playing 5v5.
By contrast most of what Detroit does comes in fits and starts. None of our d-men stand out moving the puck. None of our forwards show good puckhandling or passing. It's yet another example how rebuild on the fly combined with being big - at the expense of all else - will likely result in a very long rebuild.
But hey, at least we won a fight!
This analysis makes me doubt you actually watched the games.
I don't fault people for using this tournament as an evaluation tool for prospects they don't normally get to watch. A sample size of two games, however, is a recipe for inaccurate or incomplete evaluations (unless you just want to spit out the obvious like Givani Smith is slow and Alex Holmstrom can't skate).
I have watched five periods of the tournament plus bits and pieces of some of the other games. The tournament is really, really sloppy hockey on most fronts with tons of turn overs and very little defensive communication and structure. This applies to all of the teams I have watched, not just the Wings. You see some good individual efforts and splashes of creativity that end up going nowhere.
I don't think we brought a particularly strong team to this tournament, at least in terms of forwards. We just don't have a lot of high-skill offensive prospects in the system. I don't really know why people were expecting something different from this group in that regard. Our defense, however, has struggled much more than I thought they would, at least through two games. I think his has more to do with people trying to do too much than actual player deficiencies. The fingers are crossed that they show a bit better in the next two games and into camp.
I have watched five periods of the tournament plus bits and pieces of some of the other games. The tournament is really, really sloppy hockey on most fronts with tons of turn overs and very little defensive communication and structure. This applies to all of the teams I have watched, not just the Wings. You see some good individual efforts and splashes of creativity that end up going nowhere.
I don't think we brought a particularly strong team to this tournament, at least in terms of forwards. We just don't have a lot of high-skill offensive prospects in the system. I don't really know why people were expecting something different from this group in that regard. Our defense, however, has struggled much more than I thought they would, at least through two games. I think his has more to do with people trying to do too much than actual player deficiencies. The fingers are crossed that they show a bit better in the next two games and into camp.
Pavels Dog
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You do realize that even the best possible prospect tournament team would likely only have a handful of players that go on to make an impact in the NHL? The way a prospect roster that's thrown together for a short development tourney plays isn't really indicative of the direction of the main club. Out of this roster, few or no one other than Ras/Cholo/Svech/Hronek/VS are likely to be more than a 4th line fill-in or 3rd pairing type. And all of those 5 seem capable of playing skilled hockey.
Yeah, this batch of forwards are a bit unskilled after Ras/Svech, but having a bunch of Jurco/Frk/Pulkkinen-type prospects that look skilled on this level doesn't really mean much for the future of a franchise.
Red Stanley
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So far, the PP looks a lot better and more creative. The goaltending looks a lot less shaky. The PK looked very good. Overall the team looks more engaged. The announcers mentioned Ras hasn't played competitively since February 
izlez
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So far, the PP looks a lot better and more creative. The goaltending looks a lot less shaky. The PK looked very good. Overall the team looks more engaged. The announcers mentioned Ras hasn't played competitively since February
They also mentioned he hates plums.
Leronziia
kenorH
Tuned in for the 5 on 3 against, Hronek's PK was very good. Quick and very willing to get into shooting lanes and cop the blocks.
Red Stanley
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HIFE
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So far, the PP looks a lot better and more creative. The goaltending looks a lot less shaky. The PK looked very good. Overall the team looks more engaged. The announcers mentioned Ras hasn't played competitively since February
Well said. As a whole they look more composed. Even with the penalties the game is slightly less frantic.
Hronek, VS, Svech, Cholo, Rasmussecn, even Sadowy, et... these guys can play. Hronek skates a lot like Rafalski did- he's that strong. Really confident and involved every shift, the guy is a gamer.
Leronziia
kenorH
Unfriendly Ghost
Kasper
Dotter
THE ATHLETIC IS GARBAGE
https://www.nhl.com/video/live-rangers-vs-red-wings/t-281013894/c-52598903
They're all posted on the NHL main site
Dotter
THE ATHLETIC IS GARBAGE
Red Stanley
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Machovsky is having a great game, too. Ras has been more noticeable defensively and on faceoffs.
waltdetroit
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I missed the goalclicked out of the tab for 10 seconds.
you can back up the play by moving the white dot on the blue line to the left a little bit for a replay
Leronziia
kenorH
Hronek is having a very good game.
Involved heavily offensively and closing on his opponents quickly defensively.
Involved heavily offensively and closing on his opponents quickly defensively.
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