League News: 2017-2018 General NHL Fan Talk - (News n' Scores n' Stuff)

[hockeykicker]

Guess Barry was right

 

[trick9]

Interesting that the Rangers paid for him, especially after they let go of Keith Yandle, who is a very similar player. But maybe they wanted a right-hand shot.

 

[Hivemind]

Shattenkirk is 3 years younger than Yandle and still ended up on a contract with significantly less term. I think virtually every franchise in the NHL would prefer Shatty at $6.65M until he's 33 to Yandle at $6.35M until he's 36.

 

[ovikovy817]

When I think about that some guys here wanted to trade Carlson and let Shattenkirk with the Caps.

 

[Skrudland2Lomakin]

When I think about that some guys here wanted to trade Carlson and let Shattenkirk with the Caps.

Are these actual people or this whole generality thing people like to do, because I don't remember ever seeing anyone advocate this after the playoffs.

 

[maacoshark]

Interesting that the Rangers paid for him, especially after they let go of Keith Yandle, who is a very similar player. But maybe they wanted a right-hand shot.

They are similar type players. Rangers bought into the hype like we did. How could teams not know what they were getting?

 

[Dr John Carlson]

Excuse me while I head to the Rangers board to read the reactions.

 

[maacoshark]

When I think about that some guys here wanted to trade Carlson and let Shattenkirk with the Caps.

No kidding. Scratching my head over that one. Shattenkirk is pretty much a pp specialist. Carlson does everything.

 

[Skrudland2Lomakin]

I guess Subban just wasn't a culture fit in Montreal.

I mean the fact that they refuse to even consider non-Francophone coaches up there tells you really all you need to know about the culture surrounding that team and their perception of the world. I understand being interested in preserving heritage and culture, but there is a line of balance and they passed it eons ago.


Good for PK though, seems like he's finally in a place that lets him be himself and the town and media in NSH see his generosity for what it really is.

 

[g00n]

When I think about that some guys here wanted to trade Carlson and let Shattenkirk with the Caps.

When? Right after he was acquired and we didn't know how much he was going to disappoint, or after we'd all seen enough? Because I find it hard to believe a lot of people were saying that after the season was over.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

I mean the fact that they refuse to even consider non-Francophone coaches up there tells you really all you need to know about the culture surrounding that team and their perception of the world. I understand being interested in preserving heritage and culture, but there is a line of balance and they passed it eons ago.


Good for PK though, seems like he's finally in a place that lets him be himself and the town and media in NSH see his generosity for what it really is.

So much truth in there. I live in Montreal, and the chauvinistic culture here is paralyzing the Canadiens. Not to mention that there is some racism, with Subban being black and whatnot.

 

[4thTierSport]

Shattenkirk is 3 years younger than Yandle and still ended up on a contract with significantly less term. I think virtually every franchise in the NHL would prefer Shatty at $6.65M until he's 33 to Yandle at $6.35M until he's 36.

The 36 part would probably end up brutal but I think Yandle would be a more capable player in the short term. Shatty has been nothing short of a disaster since leaving STL. Did STL do a good job covering it up or was no one paying attention?

I mean the fact that they refuse to even consider non-Francophone coaches up there tells you really all you need to know about the culture surrounding that team and their perception of the world. I understand being interested in preserving heritage and culture, but there is a line of balance and they passed it eons ago.


Good for PK though, seems like he's finally in a place that lets him be himself and the town and media in NSH see his generosity for what it really is.

It's really sad to see idiots on national hockey broadcasts that still want to blast him for the dumbest shit. This is a personality the league needs to be embracing.

 

[maacoshark]

So much truth in there. I live in Montreal, and the chauvinistic culture here is paralyzing the Canadiens. Not to mention that there is some racism, with Subban being black and whatnot.

Sounds like you arent part of that chauvinistic culture. I don't really know a lot about the culture over there since I am in western Canada.

 

[maacoshark]

The 36 part would probably end up brutal but I think Yandle would be a more capable player in the short term. Shatty has been nothing short of a disaster since leaving STL. Did STL do a good job covering it up or was no one paying attention?


It's really sad to see idiots on national hockey broadcasts that still want to blast him for the dumbest ****. This is a personality the league needs to be embracing.

I don't think anyone has ever had an issue with Subban about anything away from hockey. I think issues with him are on ice and in the locker room.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

Sounds like you arent part of that chauvinistic culture. I don't really know a lot about the culture over there since I am in western Canada.

I'm not. That chauvinistic culture is the reason why I'm a Caps fan and not a Habs fan. FWIW my first language is French, and I still hate the mentality here.

 

[ovikovy817]

@Skrudland2Lomakin @g00n

Of course I'm talking right after when he was acquired, he had a better stretch than Carlson to end the regular season. And it was not a lot, but few people to say that.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

I watched the Rangers game last night and KS was brutal. Looks like the pressure is getting to him a bit and he's forcing things. On the goal they let up shorthanded he tried to do everything himself which led to a bad turnover and an odd-man rush the other way.

I think he's a very good player trying to do too much.

 

[Hivemind]

@Skrudland2Lomakin @g00n

Of course I'm talking right after when he was acquired, he had a better stretch than Carlson to end the regular season. And it was not a lot, but few people to say that.

I wasn't one of those people (I always viewed Shatty as a rental destined to join the Rangers in the off-season), but at that point in time the idea wasn't so heretical. Carlson being a year away from free agency and Shattenkirk looking relatively impressive, there's some logic behind the concept of cashing out on a soon-to-be UFA while retaining strong RHD depth.

 

[maacoshark]

@Skrudland2Lomakin @g00n

Of course I'm talking right after when he was acquired, he had a better stretch than Carlson to end the regular season. And it was not a lot, but few people to say that.

He got more points than Carlson did but he didn't play better than Carlson. Not even close.

 

[notDkristich]

He got more points than Carlson did but he didn't play better than Carlson. Not even close.

Points are meaningless... just win the Cup

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Are these actual people or this whole generality thing people like to do, because I don't remember ever seeing anyone advocate this after the playoffs.

Definitely was a poster or two who suggested that nonsense, prior to playoffs I think.

 

[Calicaps]

Definitely was a poster or two who suggested that nonsense, prior to playoffs I think.

He was the shiny new toy, so of course some people wanted to keep him.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

That why I don’t buy into new toy hype.

 

[ovikovy817]

Pens will be last in the division if flyers win their game in had.

And the pens play 5 times in the next 6 games against metro teams, CBJ, NYI, CAR2x, PHI. They can't go under .500 in that stretch.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]