2017-2018 Blues Discussion Thread Part Three

[simon IC]

Bergevin traded Peter Holland for Adam Cracknell. I don't get it. What is Montreal doing?

 

[2 Minute Minor]

Bergevin traded Peter Holland for Adam Cracknell. I don't get it. What is Montreal doing?

Sometimes a trade, any trade, can shake things up a little bit. But frankly I think that franchise is doomed for a long time.

 

[simon IC]

Sorry, wrong thread. I pulled a Robb!

 

[mw2noobbuster]

Bergevin traded Peter Holland for Adam Cracknell. I don't get it. What is Montreal doing?

Bergevin loves his barely passable NHL tweeners lol. He's gotta catch them all!

 

[wannabebluesplayer]

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[Bye Felicia]

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[Vladys Gumption]

Lines in practice today:

Jaskin-Stastny-Steen
Schwartz-Schenn-Tarasenko
Sobotka-Sundqvist-Berglund
Upshall-Brodziak-Thorburn

Edmundson-Pietrangelo
Gunnarsson-Parayko
Dunn-Bouwmeester

I actually like those defensive pairs quite a bit.

 

[Dbrownss]

Im fairly shocked Blais is already back out...unless its a minor injury.

 

[Oberyn]

Im fairly shocked Blais is already back out...unless its a minor injury.

I noticed Brodziak took Blais' spot on several shifts in the game against Anaheim. I thought Blais looked ok but Yeo probably saw something he didn't like.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Sundqvist has been good defensively. Ideally he's the 4th line center because his offense is a black hole.

 

[AjaxManifesto]

I noticed Brodziak took Blais' spot on several shifts in the game against Anaheim. I thought Blais looked ok but Yeo probably saw something he didn't like.

I think it's his play when he doesn't have the puck. I see him coast to spots that don't help anybody. Once he figures where he needs to be in the system he will be a regular.

 

[mw2noobbuster]

Yeah, Blais is a little lost without the puck which is fine. He'll figure it out. D pairs look good to me. Jaskin on the top line sheesh, hope he looks good there.

 

[wannabebluesplayer]

I really think Sundqvist is in there more for the PK. I'd have personally rather seen Thorburn sit if they're plugging people in for PK reasons. I understand why they want some physicality vs the Kings but I don't know that Thorburn starting is necessary. Jaskin has been playing very well and he had some of his best success on Stastny's wing, so I think that's a good thing to try, although I would swap Steen and Jaskin as far as wing spots.

EDIT: Yeo also said, and forgive me, I don't remember who quoted him, JR or Korac, but he also said that Sundqvist is at C because he doesn't have much experience on the wing. That's why Berglund is on the wing.

I still would have rather seen Sundqvist down with Brodziak and Upshall, and kept Blais in there with Berglund and Sobotka. Playing with 21 and 71 would have benefited Blais even more. Sundqvist needs to start improving his face-off% if he's going to get any more shots at C.

 

[2 Minute Minor]

I noticed Brodziak took Blais' spot on several shifts in the game against Anaheim. I thought Blais looked ok but Yeo probably saw something he didn't like.

He’s playing the game too slowly. It stood out to me. But I don’t see how that will get better without playing more. I bet he plays again soon.

 

[PiggySmalls]

Blues on another back to back. I think he plays in Minnie tomorrow night.

 

[Spektre]

I can’t ever remember a defenseman as scarred to shoot the puck on net as Bouwmeester. Every single shot he takes is a slap pass attempt to another player. I’ve never seen anything like it. I’ve never seen a NHL defenseman seem almost scared to create any offense. I’ve seen defensemen that were really bad at creating offense but at least they tried. When Bouwmeester gets the puck with time and space in the offensive zone he looks like he’s so out of his element he doesn’t know what to do. It looks like he’ll just drop his stick and take off skating the other way.

 

[Mike Liut]

With Seattle getting the funding approved today for the arena, this next expansion draft is going to hurt way more than losing Perron.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

I could see the Blues going 8 skaters 1 goalie. Schwartz-Schenn-Tarasenko-Fabbri?-Pietrangel0-Edmundson-Parayko-Dunn-Allen, But that still leaves way too many players to possibly be picked from. Our biggest hope is it takes place after the 2018-2019 season with Houston being the Expansion team. And Seattle being the relocation team.

 

[Oberyn]

I thought I read the arena would be ready for a 2020 expansion. A lot can change in 3 years.

 

[shpongle falls]

Don't know if I'm a fan of the current lines we have. Steen shouldn't be at RW and Vladdy should be with Schwartz/Schenn, also don't like Jaybo with Petro at the moment. What about this setup?

Schwartz-Schenn-Tarasenko
Sobotka-Stastny-Blais
Steen-Berglund-Paajarvi
Upshall-Brodz-Jaskin

Eddy-Petro
Gunnar-Parayko
Bouwmeester-Bortz

This way Steen can be LW and can bring some offense to the third line, don't know if Blais is ready for top 6 time but what the hell why not try it at least? Jaybo goes to the third pairing to knock the rust off against lesser competition and hopefully get's some confidence going. If not the third pairing spot then at least put Jaybo with Parayko.

 

[Oberyn]

As expected, contract negotiations with Armstrong have begun.

 

[wannabebluesplayer]

As expected, contract negotiations with Armstrong have begun.

Not sure if I'm with or against this. He's had his ups (Schenn trade, Tarasenko signing, Petro signing) and downs (Lehtera signing, Steen, Oshie trade return). As long as it's not a crazy extension (4+ years), I think I'm ok with it. Let's see how some of his new prospects pan out along with any deals he makes with them, trades or contracts.

 

[2 Minute Minor]

With Seattle getting the funding approved today for the arena, this next expansion draft is going to hurt way more than losing Perron.

What makes you say that? It depends how soon, but there will probably be several exempt young players. Worst case scenario, the Blues can make a deal to protect a play they don't want to lose. Eh, I don't see any reason it would be any more problematic than last time.

 

[Dbrownss]

Not sure if I'm with or against this. He's had his ups (Schenn trade, Tarasenko signing, Petro signing) and downs (Lehtera signing, Steen, Oshie trade return). As long as it's not a crazy extension (4+ years), I think I'm ok with it. Let's see how some of his new prospects pan out along with any deals he makes with them, trades or contracts.

Id rather DA not be in the hot seat this year. He's done a good job franshise wise. As long as he's got his Oshie for meh out of his system, he's fine moving forward. We really need the next wave to hit the ground running or a big franchise shifting trade.

 

[542365]

Fine with DA getting a contract extension. I think as a whole he's been a net positive for the organization. Besides, GM contracts, like coaches contracts, are pretty meaningless because if things turn south they can always be fired. The ownership group still has to eat that money, but I doubt that's going to stop them.