2016 Training camp (and season prep)

[Bowie22]

lolwut

 

[Lebanezer]

lolwut

 

[hohosaregood]

Has rookie hazing gone too far?

 

[DonskoiDonscored]

hahaha no way

 

[Coily]

He's blocking a door. Has to be against OSHA.

 

[hohosaregood]

This is what he gets for being an upstart rookie and surprising coaches by sticking around. How dare he.

 

[Alwalys]

Marleau at 3C really isn't that bad with the right linemates. Tierney at 3C on the other hand is a black hole defensively. That line has been proven to lose every matchup regardless of wingers.

He was pretty good as 3C and playing him there was the proper counter to Pittsburgh's depth.

 

[Sideshow Raheem]

He was pretty good as 3C and playing him there was the proper counter to Pittsburgh's depth.

Since he started his career Tierney has the second worst team-relative possession numbers of anyone who's played at least 200 minutes for the Sharks in that time. The worst is Scott Hannan.

In fairness, he's played with some bad linemates over the years and is obviously young so I'm not writing him off as a NHL player by any means. But there's zero reason to play him anywhere above the 4th line unless and until he's killing it in 4th line minutes.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

 

[OffSydes]

 

[Friday]

Party

 

[Alwalys]

Since he started his career Tierney has the second worst team-relative possession numbers of anyone who's played at least 200 minutes for the Sharks in that time. The worst is Scott Hannan.

In fairness, he's played with some bad linemates over the years and is obviously young so I'm not writing him off as a NHL player by any means. But there's zero reason to play him anywhere above the 4th line unless and until he's killing it in 4th line minutes.

Sorry it wasn't clear what I meant. Marleau was good at 3C and would have been the proper counter to Pittsburgh's depth.

 

[Barrie22]

Thornton is not allowed to shave until he wins a cup.

 

[The Nemesis]

He's blocking a door. Has to be against OSHA.

That "locker" is on wheels too. That's a safety hazard waiting to happen. What if he has to steady himself against the locker as he's getting his gear off and then it rolls and he falls and breaks his neck?

 

[Used As A Shield]

That "locker" is on wheels too. That's a safety hazard waiting to happen. What if he has to steady himself against the locker as he's getting his gear off and then it rolls and he falls and breaks his neck?

Oh god, Labanc = next havlat confirmed.

 

[hohosaregood]

Oh god, Labanc = next havlat confirmed.

It's okay, he's got that made in america guarantee.

 

[The Nemesis]

It's okay, he's got that made in america guarantee.

Yeah, but he's from Staten Island. aren't there a lot of bootleggers and counterfeiters there? That's not exactly a guarantee of quality craftsmanship.

 

[Sysreq]

Since he started his career Tierney has the second worst team-relative possession numbers of anyone who's played at least 200 minutes for the Sharks in that time. The worst is Scott Hannan.

In fairness, he's played with some bad linemates over the years and is obviously young so I'm not writing him off as a NHL player by any means. But there's zero reason to play him anywhere above the 4th line unless and until he's killing it in 4th line minutes.

Ehh. For the first year he was with Jon Scott and a terribad Goodrow. Second year was Mike Brown, Mike Haley and a revolving door. Once he started playing with competent players - specifically Zubrus and Karlsson - his numbers definitely started to improve.

Give him a shot with Ward and Marleau. He is a smart player who has shown good progress every time he has been tested.

 

[Sysreq]

Also, we've talked a great deal about our "ridiculous" depth - but I have to feel that this point that it is largely illusory. Marleau is a year older and his declining 5v5 numbers make his 3rd line assignment fitting. Boedker can replace Hertl with the Joe's should Hertl go down again. But we are not playing a 3rd line mismatch on point with the Penguin's HBK. Even with Timo coming in, we are a world-class goal scorer(ie: Kessel) behind that level of depth. We have a glut of quantity, but quality is still an issue. If we wanted a HBK tier third, we would need to do something like:

Meier - Jumbo - Pavs
Boedker - Couture - Donskoi
Marleau - Hertl - (Kessel 2.0)
Karlsson - Tierney - Ward

Wingels, Nieto and likely even Goodrow should be a scratch if we find ourselves in a SCF against Pittsburgh again. Wingels doesn't have the speed. Nieto doesn't have the offense. Goodrow doesn't have the experience.

We still need to add up front.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Once it gets a certain length, It's not bothersome at all. Joe usually reaches that point in less than a week.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Would like to see Goodrow up to start the year. He's a solid player.

 

[Timo Time]

"A real stand-up guy, could fend for himself and stand on his own two feet against some solid competition."

-Joe Thornton after learning Kevin LaBanc has been paralyzed waste-down from being subject to a locker on wheels.

 

[DonskoiDonscored]

It's okay, he's got that made in america guarantee.

So a Havlat with a $10M caphit...

 

[OrrNumber4]

Also, we've talked a great deal about our "ridiculous" depth - but I have to feel that this point that it is largely illusory. Marleau is a year older and his declining 5v5 numbers make his 3rd line assignment fitting. Boedker can replace Hertl with the Joe's should Hertl go down again. But we are not playing a 3rd line mismatch on point with the Penguin's HBK. Even with Timo coming in, we are a world-class goal scorer(ie: Kessel) behind that level of depth. We have a glut of quantity, but quality is still an issue. If we wanted a HBK tier third, we would need to do something like:

Meier - Jumbo - Pavs
Boedker - Couture - Donskoi
Marleau - Hertl - (Kessel 2.0)
Karlsson - Tierney - Ward

Wingels, Nieto and likely even Goodrow should be a scratch if we find ourselves in a SCF against Pittsburgh again. Wingels doesn't have the speed. Nieto doesn't have the offense. Goodrow doesn't have the experience.

We still need to add up front.

Yeah...in some ways, the Sharks finally got there in terms of depth, but no longer have the top-end talent.

 

[Sideshow Raheem]

Yeah...in some ways, the Sharks finally got there in terms of depth, but no longer have the top-end talent.

Thornton is probably (still) the best center in the West. Pavelski is probably a top five right wing in the NHL. Burns is a top ten defenseman. Couture and Vlasic were on Team Canada. We have the high end talent, at least until Thornton drops off.