Prospect Info: #162 LW Jesper Bratt

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A year ago Bratt was pretty much off the radar for most fans. We knew who he was but he had been somewhat unimpressive. He got cut from the WJC team, which turned out to be a good thing. He didn’t necessarily come out of nowhere but there was a reason he fell. They knew he possessed potential to excel but the risks were too high, thus the cost benefit equation resulted in him falling to where he did.
 

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The difference is we're now taking high skill players with our late round picks whereas we previously took guys like Chatham and Baddock with our late round picks

Those late round picks are the ones you shoot for the sky. If they bust, it isnt really the end of the world. If they hit like Bratt has, you hit a home run.


Feels more like a Grand Slam in the bottom of the Ninth. :laugh:
 

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Devils picked 7 guys that year before taking Bratt. So they either had the best draft ever with Bratt and 7 guys that are even better than him, or there was some luck involved as well... No way they pass on him 7 times if they had known how good the kid would be so quickly.
Ya, specifically on Bratt, I won't give Castron a ton of praise. If they had even an inkling that he could be this good, they could have taken him in the 4th or maybe at the Gignac spot.

I'd actually give Castron more credit for a late round pick if that player was a slow developer. A player who was really off the radar, like Miles Wood, I think that was a really good find(Conte's I know). Or if any of those late round d that Castron and Shero have picked picked, like Chainey, or Hellickson or even Rykov who was picked ahead of Bratt. I look at Bratt's predraft resume and it looks like he should have gone much higher. So they were lucky he fell for as long as he did.

Which is not to say he doesn't get credit at all, but in this instance I think it does need to be tempered a bit.
 

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He can’t be that much of a unicorn. Somewhere there was a fifth round or lower pick who had a similar skill set and success?
I'm not aware of any 19 year olds who were drafted in the later rounds not only breaking into the NHL but producing at a rate like Bratt. There are probably some before the modern era of the NHL when scouting outside of Canada was nowhere near what it is today, but not in the modern era. If someone can find a comparable, I'd love to see it.
 

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Someone dug it up earlier in the thread IIRC

I think there was only 1 player picked in the 6th round or later to break into the league as a 19 year old
 

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Someone dug it up earlier in the thread IIRC

I think there was only 1 player picked in the 6th round or later to break into the league as a 19 year old
Yea, wasn't it in 1995 or so?

Edit: Here's the post:

Connor Carrick was close as a 5th rd pick who made the Caps roster as a 19 year old in his draft+1 year (2013)

Before this, it was Roman Vopat as a 7th rounder in 1995 with STL and Michal Grosek 6th round, made WPG in 1994.

None of those three lasted the season with their squads. Carrick had the most GP with 34. Vopat and Grosek were at 25 and 24, respectively.

Vopat put up 5 points in 25 games. Grosek put up 4 points in 24 games.
 

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The real comp is Alfredsson. 6th rounder in '94 who won the Calder in '95-'96. They even play kind of a similar game and are both Swedes.

Alfredsson had 61 points in his rookie season, and I honestly think Bratt could match that. If we really did end up with Danny Alfredsson 2.0, it's no understatement to say it would be huge.
 
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Devils picked 7 guys that year before taking Bratt. So they either had the best draft ever with Bratt and 7 guys that are even better than him, or there was some luck involved as well... No way they pass on him 7 times if they had known how good the kid would be so quickly.

This is getting so tiresome, I think we should have a sticky to explain it, and then just link it every time someone makes this argument about Bratt. There are 7 rounds and 31 teams (30 when Bratt was drafted). Teams don’t have a draft chart that runs 210 players. They all have the highly scouted guys, the first 2-3 rounds, but later on they’re taking guys that most other teams never even scouted, or at least took a close look at.

If the Devils knew how good Bratt was going to be, they would have taken him over McLeod, because getting a player this good is so rare that you simply don’t take any chances or play games about where you think other teams might have him ranked. But just because they didn’t know he was going to be this good, doesn’t mean that they didn’t scout him and like him quite a bit. The Devils have explained why they think Bratt dropped a few times now: he was a smallish European skater who didn’t have big point totals. I’ve got to believe that those kinds of players almost never go in early rounds. The Devils scouting and front office deserve all the credit in the f***ing world for looking at this kid and realizing he was worth drafting at all.
 

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The real comp is Alfredsson. 6th rounder in '94 who won the Calder in '95-'96. They even play kind of a similar game and are both Swedes.

Alfredsson had 61 points in his rookie season, and I honestly think Bratt could match that. If we really did end up with Danny Alfredsson 2.0, it's no understatement to say it would be huge.
As far as draft position and playing in the NHL in their D+2 season, Alfredsson is probably the closest comparable. Alfredsson was 23 in his rookie season though.
 

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As far as draft position and playing in the NHL in their D+2 season, Alfredsson is probably the closest comparable. Alfredsson was 23 in his rookie season though.

Yeah but if we do HAVE Alfredsson 2.0 on our hands here, then this is the ULTIMATE win as far as hitting on a draft pick.


EDIT : f'n typos.
 
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The real comp is Alfredsson. 6th rounder in '94 who won the Calder in '95-'96. They even play kind of a similar game and are both Swedes.

Alfredsson had 61 points in his rookie season, and I honestly think Bratt could match that. If we really did end up with Danny Alfredsson 2.0, it's no understatement to say it would be huge.

Alfredsson was 21 when he was drafted and 23 when he began his rookie season. He had also scored 30 points in 39 games in the SEL. Bratt was 17 years old when he was drafted and had scored 22 points in 46 games in Sweden’s relegation league.

I’m not trying to be pedantic, and I agree that Alfredsson is probably the closest precedent to Bratt, but I think one of the cool things about Bratt is that this has really never happened before. He’s writing the book. “The next Jesper Bratt” is a phrase you’re going to hear a lot from now on.
 

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If I️ recall correctly Alex Nylander said something about Jesper Bratt being the best player in the draft...... maybe he was more serious than i thought
 
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Bratt is currently 6th in career goals and tied for 5th in career points from the 2016 draft. 162nd overall...
 
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