Prospect Info: #13 Nico Hischier: "I love to hockey" Part II

[Gerard]

Selke. Shut down the opponents top line while still putting up 70? Sign me up.

I agree - perhaps I should have put more of a discrepency in the point totals but I think those are about fair for his upside.

I think Hischier, when he gets bigger, can bounce Hall back into 80 point form consistently

 

[devilsblood]

I want to know why he isn't using his speed and hands more. That was a major part of his game pre-draft and even in the pre-season. Now its a rare sight seeing him fly up the wing with it. Bratt does it FAR more.

Well yeah, Bratt is a winger. Nico is working down low to get the puck.

 

[NJDevils17]

FWIW Nico is a lot better than I thought he’d be. The negative hype during the season left me underwhelmed by the entire draft.

However, he’s a 50+ point player right now. I see no reason when he gets stronger that he can’t put up 70-75 if paired with Hall. Not sure he’ll break into the top tier of centers but he is already a #1 at 18/19. Where would we be without him?

 

[Gerard]

FWIW Nico is a lot better than I thought he’d be. The negative hype during the season left me underwhelmed by the entire draft.

However, he’s a 50+ point player right now. I see no reason when he gets stronger that he can’t put up 70-75 if paired with Hall. Not sure he’ll break into the top tier of centers but he is already a #1 at 18/19. Where would we be without him?

I think he has the raw talent and IQ go become a top 5-10 center in the league. But samething about him makes him a sure thing to be a top 20 center in the league when he bulks up.

Pretty damn good ceiling for an ‘underwhelming’ #1 pick like the media claimed he was

 

[My3Sons]

I think he has the raw talent and IQ go become a top 5-10 center in the league. But samething about him makes him a sure thing to be a top 20 center in the league when he bulks up.

Pretty damn good ceiling for an ‘underwhelming’ #1 pick like the media claimed he was

It’s a weak draft and he has a low ceiling. But somehow Pettersson is already better than any Swedish player who has ever played in the NHL.

 

[mtnet]

Which would folks rather Hischier develop into

Selke-level defense, 60-70 points
Average two-way play, 75-85+ points

Do folks think he can be PPG material? Do you think he can reach Selke level play?

I'd take the points discount for Selke-level defense so long as it came with some respectable point totals. Can't say yet if he'll ever be ppg but for now I'm pleased with the player I see out there.

He's taken on the responsibilities laid upon him in stride for his first season and you can tell it's been a tremendous experience for him to build upon in future years.

Filling out physically and working on his shot/finish are what I'd like to see most heading into next year. He's already impressive as a tenacious two-way player at his age.

 

[OmNomNom]

It’s a weak draft and he has a low ceiling. But somehow Pettersson is already better than any Swedish player who has ever played in the NHL.

excuse me, that is the swedish gretzky you're talking about

 

[MartyOwns]

Which would folks rather Hischier develop into

Selke-level defense, 60-70 points
Average two-way play, 75-85+ points

Do folks think he can be PPG material? Do you think he can reach Selke level play?

either one would be more than fine with me.

 

[New Jersey]

nico hischier will be the next new jersey devil to win the selke. book it.

 

[Its a Trap]

Were lacking a gdt

 

[New Jersey]

Were lacking a gdt

i don't think anyone wants it

 

[Emperoreddy]

He is so good.

He would win the Calder if our PP didn’t suck.

 

[Its a Trap]

He is so good.

He would win the Calder if our PP didn’t suck.

Eh. Even if it didn’t suck he wasn’t and still isn’t getting enough time to compete with barzal. If he keeps up this form he could get himself a finalist selection possibly.

 

[glenwo2]

Whether he's Calder-worthy or not, he's quickly becoming a Clutch player at this time of the year.

Scoring goals when we absolutely needed them.

 

[Emperoreddy]

He is one of the best ES scorers in the league. Just normal PP production would absolutely have put him right up there with Barzal and Boeser.

 

[My3Sons]

I think one evaluation of any rookie is whether he makes the team better. Nico makes NJ better. He scores clutch goals and plays hard all the time. In contrast, some players may score or hit but the team isn’t any better. It’s tough to quantify but take Nico out of the lineup and I believe NJ has fewer points.

 

[MadDevil]

One thing I love about him is that he never gives up on a battle, even if it's against somebody bigger/stronger than him. It reminds me of Parise's puck hound mentality. When he gets stronger he's going to be an absolute nightmare to defend.

 

[Whaddagoal]

I think one evaluation of any rookie is whether he makes the team better. Nico makes NJ better. He scores clutch goals and plays hard all the time. In contrast, some players may score or hit but the team isn’t any better. It’s tough to quantify but take Nico out of the lineup and I believe NJ has fewer points.

No doubt, he's got that feel to it and you can see it on the ice. He also gets into the dirty areas to dig and fight out for the puck, and isn't bothered to take a hit to make a play. I had no idea what to expect this season after seeing everyone downplay this draft over summer, and seeing so many hyped high picks come in lukewarm. I barely followed any preseason in September and was AWOL initially because I didn't think i could make it through another horrible year, but man has this guy helped change it around.

But to credit, its not only him: Bratt, Butcher added to this teams' offense and it went up a hell of a bunch of notches unexepectedly up.... can't imagine ANYONE really saw that coming. Other guys stepping in and up (Mojo) you could imagine, but Nico and his trio rookies are hugely impactful to this team.

And that's not to take away from Gibbbons/Coleman improvements either. Just saying those other 3 changed entire dynamic of our lineup and team. Before we were like a 1 or maybe 2 line team, now we have 4 legit lines and everyone is generally in their place FWD-wise.

 

[Jets012]

Best rookie in the league this year besides Barzal. Stud. Gonna be flat out excellent in future years.

 

[Whaddagoal]

He is one of the best ES scorers in the league. Just normal PP production would absolutely have put him right up there with Barzal and Boeser.

I think that's even better sign because he's competing with the best at 5v5 ES, and hugely impactful. MOAR is good, but as we know even guys like JJ look good on PP, so the fact that Nico is stellar on 5v5 we can assume its only up from here as long as he keeps up the training/work ethic.

 

[devilsblood]

I think one evaluation of any rookie is whether he makes the team better. Nico makes NJ better. He scores clutch goals and plays hard all the time. In contrast, some players may score or hit but the team isn’t any better. It’s tough to quantify but take Nico out of the lineup and I believe NJ has fewer points.

One thing I love about him is that he never gives up on a battle, even if it's against somebody bigger/stronger than him. It reminds me of Parise's puck hound mentality. When he gets stronger he's going to be an absolute nightmare to defend.

That really is the most encouraging thing right? As a high pick, you figure he has talent, but the fact that he works like he does is what seperates him from so many other talented guys who dissappoint. Even his goal celebrations are all business.

 

[Comparison Ford]

His game is so poised. He really reminds me of a Bergeron / Datsyuk hybrid.

 

[OmNomNom]

Best rookie in the league this year besides Barzal. Stud. Gonna be flat out excellent in future years.

Boeser and Keller tho

 

[Emperoreddy]

Boeser and Keller tho

Nico is better. Pure statline isn't the only measure.

Nico has more ES points then both of them

 

[Bleedred]

Boeser and Keller tho

Kerfoot FTW!