Friedman: “Lots of expectation St. Louis will be an aggressive trade partner”

[Brock Radunske]

I actually don't think Kadri for Parayko is all that outlandish. Kadri is on a steal of a contract. The Blues would definitely need another Top 4 RHD to make it work though. Can't go into next season with Petro / Bortuzzo / Schmaltz on the right side. Yikes.

So its a needs based thing? Fair enough.
Just to be clear, you don't think Parayko is worth a 30g defensive center and a top 4RHD, right?
If St. Louis added a nice piece, I'd add Zaitsev.

Both sides would have multiple pieces involved.

Fair enough.

I don't really know the Blues organization well, but what add would Blues fans (who are open to the discussion) add to Parayko to get Kadri + Zaitsev? Given the Leafs are starting to contend, I think it would have to be a useful piece.

 

[bleedblue1223]

I don't really know the Blues organization well, but what add would Blues fans (who are open to the discussion) add to Parayko to get Kadri + Zaitsev? Given the Leafs are starting to contend, I think it would have to be a useful piece.

What would you be looking for? I'm not sure how to properly value Zaitsev.

 

[simon IC]

Sorry to bring things back to square one, but I don't want to trade Parayko, even if Zaitsev is added. Hard Pass on Kadri/Zaitsev for Parayko from me.

 

[Brock Radunske]

What would you be looking for? I'm not sure how to properly value Zaitsev.

Me either. Only his 2nd year in the league.
The Leafs need two main things;
1. Physical top-4 RHD
2. Defensive #3C (please don't say Lehtera lol)

 

[bleedblue1223]

Sorry to bring things back to square one, but I don't want to trade Parayko, even if Zaitsev is added. Hard Pass on Kadri/Zaitsev for Parayko from me.

Probably in the end, but it's a better discussion and something worth to consider. If we can upgrade our scoring and not significantly downgrade defensively, it's worth looking at.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Me either. Only his 2nd year in the league.
The Leafs need two main things;
1. Physical top-4 RHD
2. Defensive #3C (please don't say Lehtera lol)

If you need a center, then you are limited to Sobotka or Berglund, who are available for what it's worth.

 

[TheGoldenGod]

Pretty sure the Blues front office looks at a player like Parayko as untouchable.

 

[Brock Radunske]

If you need a center, then you are limited to Sobotka or Berglund, who are available for what it's worth.

Whoops, I said Lehtera but was thinking Sobotka.
I like Berglund but I don't think he moves the needle enough.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Whoops, I said Lehtera but was thinking Sobotka.
I like Berglund but I don't think he moves the needle enough.

I don't disagree.

 

[LetsGoBLUES91]

I don't really know the Blues organization well, but what add would Blues fans (who are open to the discussion) add to Parayko to get Kadri + Zaitsev? Given the Leafs are starting to contend, I think it would have to be a useful piece.

I know this has been beaten to death, but if I'm trading Parayko to the Leafs (and he'd be a perfect fit there), it needs to be Marner coming back. I would be fine with the Blues adding a mid-level prospect or Sobotka type.

 

[Brock Radunske]

What's St.Louis's cap situation?
Probably just going to back the Brinks truck up to JT and hope to run JT-Schenn, no?
If that happens, would a guy like JBo be a cap casualty?

 

[Brock Radunske]

I know this has been beaten to death, but if I'm trading Parayko to the Leafs (and he'd be a perfect fit there), it needs to be Marner coming back. I would be fine with the Blues adding a mid-level prospect or Sobotka type.

I thought you wanted a center?
I would be VERY hesitant to mover Marner. He looks like the best player on a team featuring Matthews.

 

[bleedblue1223]

What's St.Louis's cap situation?
Probably just going to back the Brinks truck up to JT and hope to run JT-Schenn, no?
If that happens, would a guy like JBo be a cap casualty?

Tavares is definitely plan A, but probably won't happen.

We are in decent shape cap wise, but our cap casualty types should be available even if we don't land Tavares. JBo, Gunnar, Sobotka, and Berglund.

 

[BangarangxRufio]

What's St.Louis's cap situation?
Probably just going to back the Brinks truck up to JT and hope to run JT-Schenn, no?
If that happens, would a guy like JBo be a cap casualty?

100% YES. But it would be up to him if he wants to waive his NTC to go to the (which I think he would)

 

[Brock Radunske]

Tavares is definitely plan A, but probably won't happen.

We are in decent shape cap wise, but our cap casualty types should be available even if we don't land Tavares. JBo, Gunnar, Sobotka, and Berglund.

JBo could be a savvy add for the Leafs in the summer.
Let's see how the JT situation shakes out and revisit it in the summer

 

[simon IC]

Probably in the end, but it's a better discussion and something worth to consider. If we can upgrade our scoring and not significantly downgrade defensively, it's worth looking at.

Oh I agree, Parayko is not untouchable. I also think it's great we can have intelligent conversations with Leaf fans without getting hysterical when Parayko's name is mentioned. I still think very, very highly of Colton, however, and I genuinely think we have yet to see his best play. I am also not that impressed with Kadri. He is an okay 2/3 C, but a trade like the one being discussed smacks of desperation to me. I mean, are we really that desperate for a C that we settle for Kadri, especially if Parayko is involved? I suggest we hang on to Parayko. He had a bit of a down season. There is no reason to panic yet.

 

[67Blues]

I thought you wanted a center?
I would be VERY hesitant to mover Marner. He looks like the best player on a team featuring Matthews.

We need top 6 center and RW.

 

[BangarangxRufio]

I thought you wanted a center?
I would be VERY hesitant to mover Marner. He looks like the best player on a team featuring Matthews.

I would want Nylander and I could see the adding in that situation. I see his situation a lot like Schenn's. Let him go at center and if it doesnt stick we have a great#2RW

 

[simon IC]

100% YES. But it would be up to him if he wants to waive his NTC to go to the (which I think he would)

I am not sure of that. JBo is a pretty quiet guy, who doesn't seem to like the limelight. Heck, he looks uncomfortable just being interviewed. I am not sure he would appreciate the intense Toronto media.

 

[TheGoldenGod]

Bouwmeester interviews are fascinating

 

[Brock Radunske]

I would want Nylander and I could see the adding in that situation. I see his situation a lot like Schenn's. Let him go at center and if it doesnt stick we have a great#2RW

If all the big defensive names re-up with their teams (Carlson/Karlsson/Doughty) I think Parayko would be one of the few young players in the league that the Leafs would at least discuss for Nylander.
Obviously adding via UFA would be the preferred route, though.

 

[BangarangxRufio]

I am not sure of that. JBo is a pretty quiet guy, who doesn't seem to like the limelight. Heck, he looks uncomfortable just being interviewed. I am not sure he would appreciate the intense Toronto media.

idk. 1 year in Toronto to see if he wants to stay around? I could see him doing that. If its too much, walk and go to FA. Bu i can see why he wouldn't as well

 

[stl76]

What would you be looking for? I'm not sure how to properly value Zaitsev.

Have you seen Zaitsev play defense? Have you seen his contract? No f***ing thank you.

Parayko + for Kadri + Zaitsev would be awful for the Blues IMO.

 

[AuraSphere]

Sorry to bring things back to square one, but I don't want to trade Parayko, even if Zaitsev is added. Hard Pass on Kadri/Zaitsev for Parayko from me.

Nylander + Zaitsev for Parayko?

 

[simon IC]

Nylander + Zaitsev for Parayko?

Personally, I still pass, but many of my fellow Blues fans on our sub forum would do this in a heartbeat. I think a few Leaf fans might not like your proposal.