Confirmed with Link: Zykov re-signs for two years

[Anton Babchuk]

With regards to his contract status, Michael Smith's tweet says it's a two-way deal

I'm pretty sure that's just a mistake from the original press release that was corrected but still shows up in the link. The Hurricanes always list AHL salaries for two way deals and there's nothing in press release that mentions a two-way deal or AHL salaries.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Boy, you’re really on the Mr. Literal train tonight.

It’s a rhetorical way of saying “this kid has skated less than 7 minutes of 1 game in October”. It’s just a wee bit early to ask him to go be responsible for the middle of the ice during the most important shifts of the game, while facing brutal Staal/O’Reilly/Couturier/Bergeron type counterparts every night.

Actually, not "Mr. Literal" at all. Arguing that a 19 year old rookie belongs on the 4th line because he's only had 7 minutes of NHL time is a completely silly argument. There's a large chasm between "going against couturier" and "4th line winger minutes". Your insistence that "because he has no NHL time he belongs as a 4th line winger" is what I'm disagreeing with. I'm not saying we should count on him being a top line center, but your assumption that he can't play a top 9 role because "he has 7 minutes of NHL time" and belongs on the 4th line is what I'm disagreeing with.

Either (a) he shows he belongs in the top 9 and will get time there or (b) he doesn't and should go back to the AHL or Czech League. Putting him on the 4th line wing would be a terrible move IMO.

Like I said in that same post, I fully expect he can take Rask’s job. So let him do that, make it his first victory. There’s nothing to be gained by denying him the chance to do that.

I'm confused. Your proposed line-up had him on a 4th line wing. How is that "taking Rask's job"?

 

[Anton Babchuk]

we're all gonna die anyway. who cares

 

[Vagrant]

If Wallmark gets claimed off waivers then he'll be back on them a few weeks later. I don't see the big deal about him. He seems even slower than Rask, if possible. He's been almost completely invisible in his NHL games. Looks like another player who can light up the AHL with more time and space but can't do anything against NHL competition.

this. there was a reason he was undrafted despite some impressive production in the world juniors his first time through the draft. he's pretty slow and he processes the game pretty slow. he seems pretty capped at his current potential. he's great on faceoffs, though. the similarities to rask are clear. the only thing about rask is that he has a history of producing in the nhl and wallmark doesn't. i do feel rask gets a lot of heat unduly. he's fine as your 3rd line center. if he's a problem with your group, that's a pretty good sign.

 

[Joe McGrath]

Tarheel when did you become Paul Maurice?

 

[tarheelhockey]

Actually, not "Mr. Literal" at all. Arguing that a 19 year old rookie belongs on the 4th line because he's only had 7 minutes of NHL time is a completely silly argument. There's a large chasm between "going against couturier" and "4th line winger minutes". Your insistence that "because he has no NHL time he belongs as a 4th line winger" is what I'm disagreeing with. I'm not saying we should count on him being a top line center, but your assumption that he can't play a top 9 role because "he has 7 minutes of NHL time" and belongs on the 4th line is what I'm disagreeing with.

Either (a) he shows he belongs in the top 9 and will get time there or (b) he doesn't and should go back to the AHL or Czech League. Putting him on the 4th line wing would be a terrible move IMO.

I'm confused. Your proposed line-up had him on a 4th line wing. How is that "taking Rask's job"?

BBA, you ignorant slut.

I’ve written several paragraphs explaining how I think he should be handled and given opportunities to advance. I specifically said he shouldn’t just be buried on the 4th line. I specifically said I’d rather have him at center than not. And you know damned well I’m not saying his literal statistics are what it’s about.

 

[Canes]

I think the only way this Necas argument can be resolved at this point is through a gentlemanly duel.

 

[emptyNedder]

I don't think we'll miss Wallmark. He seems like a poor man's Victor Rask to me.

I think he might be a smart man's Rask. Saw Charlotte play several times and one thing I noticed each time was that Wallmark spent more time talking with the coaches than the rest of the team combined. From the hand motions, it appeared he and the staff were discussing opportunities or the other team's weaknesses. From a few rows back it definitely appeared that Wallmark was thinking at a higher level then most AHL players.

 

[Lempo]

I think the only way this Necas argument can be resolved at this point is through a gentlemanly duel.

 

[geehaad]

I’d just like to say how thrilled I am that this website allows the word slut without censorship.

Watch yourself, Hank.

EDIT: the hell? How did tarheel get s1ut without censorship? Ok, I’m back to being less than happy.

EDIT part deux: ah, you musta used a capital i.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

I’d just like to say how thrilled I am that this website allows the word **** without censorship.

Watch yourself, Hank.

EDIT: the hell? How did tarheel get s1ut without censorship? Ok, I’m back to being less than happy.

EDIT part deux: ah, you musta used a capital i.

Don't bring me into this. I'm out.

 

[JWEKD]

Wouldn't shock me at all if Necas isn't quite ready yet, he's still built like a bird.

I would like Rask out by the start of the season and Wallmark on the 4th line.

At the Wednesday evening public development camp session, Necas was actually one of the noticeably bigger forwards. Like another poster mentioned, he's pretty much the same size as Svech. Actually looked taller, but maybe he's just a more upright skater. Definitely not a bird, like, at all. Kid is ready, good size, great skill.

 

[The Jerk Store]

Thanks Obama!!

 

[bleedgreen]

At the Wednesday evening public development camp session, Necas was actually one of the noticeably bigger forwards. Like another poster mentioned, he's pretty much the same size as Svech. Actually looked taller, but maybe he's just a more upright skater. Definitely not a bird, like, at all. Kid is ready, good size, great skill.

I’ve seen pics and videos of him this camp. Still looks pretty damn thin to me. You have to be light to dance like he does. Svech isn’t as filled out as I thought he was either to be honest. Necas is a very tall and upright skater, and that plays a big part in how wispy he looks. He’s very exposed looking, and he makes a lot of moves in traffic that if his spidey sense isn’t on full power at all times he can get crushed.

I’ve never once in my life believed the dimensions given out by the teams. Those have been infamously inaccurate over the years. They try to be better about it now, I know that but I just don’t put stock into it.

185-190 at anything around 6’2” or more in the hockey world is pretty damn light. I was stuck at 195 at 6’4” through my 20’s playing 3-4 nights a week and my ass got tossed around playing higher level beer league. Until I was 210 at least it was rough. I can’t imagine the NHL. I skated tonight with a couple of guys from the Eagles here in CO, ECHL level and they were intimidating in the corners - and I’m a big fella. They make Necas look like.....well a baby bird.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

BBA, you ignorant slut.

I’ve written several paragraphs explaining how I think he should be handled and given opportunities to advance. I specifically said he shouldn’t just be buried on the 4th line. I specifically said I’d rather have him at center than not. And you know damned well I’m not saying his literal statistics are what it’s about.

I disagree with your overall premise of having him on the 4th line though (and some of the reasons you used to form that opinion, but to avoid being "literal", I'll set those aside). Either he's ready for a top 9 role at training camp, or he's not. My view is if he's not, then send him to Charlotte (or less preferably the Czech league) to get ready. There he can get gobs of minutes in all situations vs. putting him as a 4th line winger with some other potential opportunities. Similarly to how you said Bean should go to the AHL until he's 21 so he can develop properly. That's the best option to me.

I don't think it will matter though. If I had to bet right now, I'd bet that Necas will not only make the team out of camp, but be in a top 9 role. Maybe or maybe not a center, but like Aho two seasons ago, I think he will be on the team and in a top 9 role, even if it's a bit of a sheltered one. For instance, something like:

Ferland-Aho-Teravainen = Top scoring line
McGinn-Staal-Williams = Goes against toughest matchups
????/Necas-Necas/????-Svechnikov =Sheltered line that goes against weaker matchups
Zykov-Martinook-Finnish guy we signed/PDG/Foegele.: Strong 4th line that can play in most situations.

???? will depend on what happens to Skinner/Faulk and who else is brought in.

 

[JWEKD]

I’ve seen pics and videos of him this camp. Still looks pretty damn thin to me. You have to be light to dance like he does. Svech isn’t as filled out as I thought he was either to be honest. Necas is a very tall and upright skater, and that plays a big part in how wispy he looks. He’s very exposed looking, and he makes a lot of moves in traffic that if his spidey sense isn’t on full power at all times he can get crushed.

I’ve never once in my life believed the dimensions given out by the teams. Those have been infamously inaccurate over the years. They try to be better about it now, I know that but I just don’t put stock into it.

185-190 at anything around 6’2” or more in the hockey world is pretty damn light. I was stuck at 195 at 6’4” through my 20’s playing 3-4 nights a week and my ass got tossed around playing higher level beer league. Until I was 210 at least it was rough. I can’t imagine the NHL. I skated tonight with a couple of guys from the Eagles here in CO, ECHL level and they were intimidating in the corners - and I’m a big fella. They make Necas look like.....well a baby bird.

I suppose we'll have to disagree on whether 6'2" 190 is a baby bird and too light to play in the NHL. I imagine he'll put on more weight as he matures, but his size is not going to hold him back at this point.

 

[JWEKD]

Back to Zykov. Don't think he's guaranteed a spot with the new contract. Training camp and preseason will be important for him to start out in the NHL. I think he sticks.

 

[Stickpucker]

Necas isn’t there yet. I’d rather see something like:

McGinn - Aho - Turbo
Ferland - Staal - Svechnikov
Skinner - Rask - Williams
Zykov - Martinook - Necas
PDG

Let him get his feet wet and work his way up as someone (Rask) inevitably fails to produce.

Seems like a waste to put Svech with stone hands Staal. Seems like that's asking him to turn into the dangling one man show.

If Staal can't break 50 points with Ahk, Lindholm, and TT he's never going to. Rather put Mcginn/ Ferland / Williams with Staal.

Rask or Necas can get sheltered third line minutes with Svechnikov. Rask has at least shown he can pass and shoot even if he's a little slow.

 

[AD Skinner]

I don't think Zykov will be gifted a spot but I do think he will earn one. No one else brings what he does in front of the crease

 

[Stickpucker]

I think the only way this Necas argument can be resolved at this point is through a gentlemanly duel.

Hotdog eating competition?

 

[Canes]

Hotdog eating competition?

That would be good too but we need to save all the hot dogs we can so Necas can bulk up on them

 

[Henkka]

What's wrong on this guy? Why did you left him go and other organizations won't even give a fair chance.

Again on waivers.

 

[HisIceness]

Rod Brind'Amour happened.

 

[bleedgreen]

Seemed like we were high on him coming into the season. Rba used him a bit in the beginning and he didn’t really produce. That’s happened all over the lineup but for some reason Zykov didn’t really get a second chance.

He’s very strong and good off the cycle, but he’s a lumbering skater up and down the rink. He needs to score to offset that and the coach obviously doesn’t think he’s capable of it. Like many fringe guys, if he was in the right place at the right time he could do well.