Confirmed with Link: Zykov re-signs for two years

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it seems pretty bad for zykov regardless of the outcome to be locked in for the second year. it's hard to think of an upside to forgoing your negotiating power for next offseason in a season where its projected to be somewhat sink or swim. it's hard to see the upside in success or failure. if he blows the doors off the thing, he's locked in at league minimum. if he sucks entirely, he's forced to honor the second year of his contract likely riding the bus in the ahl again with a contract the khl has to honor or suffer the "waiver for termination" phase. it seems decidedly like a team mandated second year in exchange for one way status. the younger and more unproven you are, the shorter you should want your contract to be unless you're being offered compensation equivalent to the risk of outperforming the deal. there is no such incentive here. they did a similar contract with brock mcginn by offering him the extra year, but even that one made a bit more sense.

Zykov now has a guarantee he's in Raleigh or Charlotte (or North America even if he's traded) for 2 years. Considering he's been in North America in the Q or AHL since he was 17, the upside may be that he doesn't need to worry about leaving the NHL system for 2 years.
 

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so, as of right now:
Aho - Necas - Turbo
Ferland - Staal - Svechnikov
Skinner - Rask - Williams
Zykov - Martinook - McGinn
PDG
callups: Wallmark, Foegele, Saarela, Kuokkanen, Roy, Goat

It's nice to have depth.

Necas isn’t there yet. I’d rather see something like:

McGinn - Aho - Turbo
Ferland - Staal - Svechnikov
Skinner - Rask - Williams
Zykov - Martinook - Necas
PDG

Let him get his feet wet and work his way up as someone (Rask) inevitably fails to produce.
 

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Necas isn’t there yet. I’d rather see something like:

McGinn - Aho - Turbo
Ferland - Staal - Svechnikov
Skinner - Rask - Williams
Zykov - Martinook - Necas
PDG

Let him get his feet wet and work his way up as someone (Rask) inevitably fails to produce.
I know you haven't been thrilled with him this week, but him on the 4th line ever, is not happening.,
 

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Necas isn’t there yet. I’d rather see something like:

McGinn - Aho - Turbo
Ferland - Staal - Svechnikov
Skinner - Rask - Williams
Zykov - Martinook - Necas
PDG

Let him get his feet wet and work his way up as someone (Rask) inevitably fails to produce.

Man do we need a #1C or what. That lineup with a legit top line centerman would go from good to great very quickly.
 

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more important than specific line roles is the issue of icetime in my opinion. the combinations are always subject to change, but the time on ice allocation seems to be more consistent with coaches than specific line designations. they may have a basis where they clearly like two players together (aho-turbo) or want to foster some chemistry (svechnikov-necas) for the future. it feels like a safer exercise to try to determine pecking order based on minutes. it seems like something that coaches have moved away from, the practice of labeling lines based on traditional archetypes. the league is so matchup heavy and zone start based now that the old classifications don't fit as well as they did previously.

there's part of me that wonders if brind'amour is going to want to deploy jordan in a more offensive capacity than peters did because he envisions jordan being his brind'amour. he talked earlier in the offseason about jordan's untapped upside in a scoring capacity, which seems weird for a player about to turn 30. i wouldn't be entirely shocked to see the TSA line back together with that consideration.

aho - staal - turbo
ferland - necas - svechnikov/williams
skinner - rask - svechnikov/williams
zykov - martinook - mcginn


if/when skinner is dealt slide mcginn to the left side on rask's wing and insert foegele with martinook and zykov. ferland would be a great bag man for necas and svechnikov. not that either should need any real protection, but it would be great to have some insulation for those two. if you don't want a line that green, flip svechnikov and williams.
 

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Aho at center:

Zykov // Aho // Teravainen
Ferland // Staal // Williams
Rask // Necas // Svechnikov
McGinn // Martinook // Foegele

I'd personally still like to see a line of Ferland // Staal // Williams. That sounds like a frustrating line to play against.

Aho at wing:

Aho // Staal // Teravainen
Ferland // Rask // Williams
Zykov // Necas // Svechnikov
McGinn // Martinook // Foegele

Just go full rookies on the 3A line and let them get the softest matchups.
 

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Necas isn’t there yet. I’d rather see something like:

McGinn - Aho - Turbo
Ferland - Staal - Svechnikov
Skinner - Rask - Williams
Zykov - Martinook - Necas
PDG

Let him get his feet wet and work his way up as someone (Rask) inevitably fails to produce.

Toronto style with the kids, on the sheltered "3rd" line, vet- Necas- Svec. Staal& Aho lines play the heavy minutes and the kids get more offensive role, but with offensive talent around them.

Aho's the best forward on Carolina and has shown all the potential to be a #1C, I want him to get that chance.

Looks like a good signing.
 

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I know you haven't been thrilled with him this week, but him on the 4th line ever, is not happening.,

I’m not unhappy with where he is in his development curve, I just don’t think he’s anywhere near being a #1 center right now. That’s taking a kid who hasn’t even scored an NHL point yet, and putting all the pressure in the world on him to score at a high rate against the top defenders in the world. He’s just not ready for that. He’s probably not even ready for top-6 duty yet. Someone like Jordan Staal would eat his lunch.

Start him on the 4th line, let him have some successes. I don’t mean bury him. Put him on the PP. Give him mid-game chances to take a shift on a higher line when we’re trying to get something started. Let him jump in there when someone’s hurt or playing like crap. If he succeeds, make it “hey look how he’s moving up the ladder” rather than “it’s about time he showed up”. Necas isn’t going to be the solution for this team in 2019, so no sense in putting him in a position to have a difficult transition to the NHL.
 

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I’m not unhappy with where he is in his development curve, I just don’t think he’s anywhere near being a #1 center right now. That’s taking a kid who hasn’t even scored an NHL point yet, and putting all the pressure in the world on him to score at a high rate against the top defenders in the world. He’s just not ready for that. He’s probably not even ready for top-6 duty yet. Someone like Jordan Staal would eat his lunch.

Start him on the 4th line, let him have some successes. I don’t mean bury him. Put him on the PP. Give him mid-game chances to take a shift on a higher line when we’re trying to get something started. Let him jump in there when someone’s hurt or playing like crap. If he succeeds, make it “hey look how he’s moving up the ladder” rather than “it’s about time he showed up”. Necas isn’t going to be the solution for this team in 2019, so no sense in putting him in a position to have a difficult transition to the NHL.

I don't get your hangup with "never scored an NHL point yet". No prospect has scored an NHL point before making it to the NHL. Aho didn't, Svechnikov didn't, and a host of others didn't. And before you say "but he's a center", your line-up has him as a 4th line winger so the whole "he's an undersized center" doesn't apply.

If he's not good enough to be a top 9 NHLr, then send him back to the Czech league or the AHL where he'll get enough minutes. The Czech national team thought he was good enough to play in the WC, at the expense of some other highly talented guys like Zadina and Chytl.

Regardless, I'll be very surprised if he's not on the team end not in the top 9 come the start of the season. I agree that we shouldn't count on him as a 1C, but there is a lot of room between 1C and 4th line winger.
 

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There's going to be tons of competition for the last few forward spots. The most I can remember in quite awhile. Svechnikov is pretty much a given at this point, Necas probably isn't too far behind. And Zykov, Martinook and PDG have 1 way contracts. But Foegele, Wallmark, Kuokkanen, Saarela, Roy, etc are going to be battling it out too. The last 8 of those guys better be ready to play starting September or they could easily find themselves on the outside looking in, even if we have to potentially risk losing one or two of them to waivers.
 

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Wouldn't shock me at all if Necas isn't quite ready yet, he's still built like a bird.

I would like Rask out by the start of the season and Wallmark on the 4th line.

According to the N&O article, Necas is 6'2" 189lbs and Svech is 6'2" 192 lbs. Seems odd that people think Svech is a physical beast and Necas is a lightweight.
 

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If Wallmark gets claimed off waivers then he'll be back on them a few weeks later. I don't see the big deal about him. He seems even slower than Rask, if possible. He's been almost completely invisible in his NHL games. Looks like another player who can light up the AHL with more time and space but can't do anything against NHL competition.
 

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I don't get your hangup with "never scored an NHL point yet". No prospect has scored an NHL point before making it to the NHL. Aho didn't, Svechnikov didn't, and a host of others didn't.

Boy, you’re really on the Mr. Literal train tonight.

It’s a rhetorical way of saying “this kid has skated less than 7 minutes of 1 game in October”. It’s just a wee bit early to ask him to go be responsible for the middle of the ice during the most important shifts of the game, while facing brutal Staal/O’Reilly/Couturier/Bergeron type counterparts every night.

And before you say "but he's a center", your line-up has him as a 4th line winger so the whole "he's an undersized center" doesn't apply.

I’d rather have him as a bottom-6 center than a wing, TBH. But I don’t see an easy way to make that happen without putting Rask or Martinook in the press box, which isn’t ideal either.

Like I said in that same post, I fully expect he can take Rask’s job. So let him do that, make it his first victory. There’s nothing to be gained by denying him the chance to do that.
 

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