I agree. $4.5M AAV. We need to have $$$ for other more offensive oriented players such as another Top 4 defenceman with offensive skills.
Zub 6.7 mill for 4 years. Do you do it?
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I agree. $4.5M AAV. We need to have $$$ for other more offensive oriented players such as another Top 4 defenceman with offensive skills.
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Statistical models generally place his market value somewhere around 4M give or take a few hundred grand. You have to pay above market to keep players in Canada, but if you go much beyond 4.5M you've probably made a fairly substantial error.
Gotta say, it is nice to see Zub's representation polling the fanbase to get a feeling for how the team would react to such a contract.
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Fair to say that if nothing happens this summer regarding Artem Zub and Connor Brown, Dorion might put us in a very delicate situation, once again.
In that case, trade him for a RW, and trade Connor Brown for a RD
You can even add picks/prospects to improve the quality!
But yeah, always stressful when Pierre is making these moves.
Pretty much this. I'd bite the bullet simply because we literally can't afford to lose him unless we want to be in the Bedard/Mitchkov sweepstakes opening night next year.
Forget 4 years, give him a long term deal at $5 million (7-8 years). His game isn't going to decline since he doesn't play like Volchenkov. He's positionally our best defender and has very good stick work. Zub has to be an integral part of this core.
If we were willing to pay 6.7M for Zub we would have better options at that price.
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crazy, imagine not wiling to give Zub 5 mill only to let him leave and slot in the next gudbranson and call it a successful offseason
That's some prime Dorion thinking on how to keep your team bad, so no surprise you're a fan.
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Are we talking about the same Gudbranson who's currently on the 1st place (in their division) Flames, playing even more minutes than he played with us?
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His price will be between 5.5 and 6, and I would do that. 6.7 is alot, however if it means they lose him if they dont got that high id have to think long and hard. He is massively underrated by a large portion of this fan base based on the comments. He is absolutely a number 3, he is good enough to carry a top 4 pair. Thats a very valuable player, he is also a RD the organizations weakest position and he is a shut down D man the organizations weakest style player.
No they really dont need another offensive D they need a defensive D man.
bert
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Then he is gone and this team continues to mire in mediocrity. This team is literally below the cap floor in real dollars right now and people dont want to pay a D man who is a plus player on a team that is negative 40 in goal differential and plays against the other teams best players. Zub plays just under 22 minutes a game... he literally elevates every player that plays with him. Absolute nonsense.
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yes the same gudbranson who would go back to being exposed if he we put him in a position to fail
vs Zub who is the guy who goes up against top end talent and literally makes everyone he plays with a better player.
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If he demanded 6.7M, which he won’t so this is purely hypothetical, I’d call Vegas and send Zub and our 1st if it’s around 8OA for Theodore and their 1st. Vegas gets cap relief for next season and we get a very good left handed RD at 5.2M for 3 more years. If it’s true Zub wants another short term deal he won’t cost more than 5M.
A number 3, but is he a 2?
What are your thoughts on Provorov, McDonagh and Giordano at 6.75 and Fowler Faulk and Krug at 6.5. Those are the 6 guys surrounding 6.7.
6.7 would be the 25th highest cap hit in the league for D men. A solid 3 able to anchor a 3/4 pair. Yes, I agree he warrants that, but that's not 6.7.
It's a tough spot. We need him. It's landing an AAV that works for everyone.
Edit: I think we need to land the Norris and Stuetzle contracts first, see how those AAVs go, then see what we can do with Zub. Stuetzle may not be ready to sign though.
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Another reason to go after one of the two RDs ranked in the top10 in this upcoming draft. If they can't get Nemec or Jiricek is Luneau a reach at 6th or 7th OA? Or do we think one of the three we have in Belleville could turn into one?
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bert
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He is a number 2 on the sens because they don't have anyone close to a legit top 4. Sanderson will be a 2 and Zub will slot in correctly. To me the difference of a 3 and a 4 is alot bigger than a 2 or a 3. As a 3 is good enough to carry a pair for big minutes. Irregardless the sens have to lock up Zub they're just spinning their tires again if they don't have a playoff level d core. As I said in my earlier post they don't have anyone to replace him and d men are the hardest thing to aquire.
For the sens the only player that plays like Zub from a stylistic standpoint is McDonough. Zub is much better defensively than all those players you mentioned. He is also right handed and plays right. He is a great fit for this team and plugs an enormous hole. You need players that are hard to play against. Krug is a bad fit small. Faulk isn't very good defensively. I don't know what's happened to Provorov this year and McDonough is old. I prefer Zub for the sens. again 6.7 is alot. There is no way he should cost that much. Max 6 but probably comes in around 5.5 which I do all day.
