News Article: Zetterberg to decide future later in July

[silkyjohnson50]

Bigger question is who gets the C.

During a radio interview earlier this year, Howard guessed Abdelkader would be the next to wear it, for what it's worth.

 

[Syckle78]

During a radio interview earlier this year, Howard guessed Abdelkader would be the next to wear it, for what it's worth.

I don't think so. I think it goes straight to Larkin. The c is a marketing tool as much as anything. The organization will be looking to sell captain larkin swag.

 

[raymond23]

During a radio interview earlier this year, Howard guessed Abdelkader would be the next to wear it, for what it's worth.

Ew

 

[Syckle78]

Whata the recapture penalty for retiring this year?

 

[ShelbyZ]

Whata the recapture penalty for retiring this year?

-$4,300,001 for the next three seasons if he retires this summer.

-$ 5,083,335 per season remaining if he retires summer of 2019 or 2020.

 

[ShelbyZ]

Given that the years remaining on Zetterbergs deal cost so little in real money, I'll bet the team won't have an issue swapping his contract for another teams bad salary that has less cap but more "real money" implications.

I would imagine if Zetterberg goes the LTIR route, the Red Wings would move either his or Franzens contract somehow, since $10M+ of eventual LTIR money is going to cut into their flexibility to make UFA/RFA signings over the summer.

 

[PelagicJoe]

Bigger question is who gets the C.

If Z retires this year, then I think Kronwall or maybe Abdelkader would get it by default, no? Larkin would get the 2nd A if one of them get promoted.

 

[Henkka]

I'm quite sure he plays this season, and then LTIRetires.

The "truth" he slipped to Swedish media last summer was, that "I probably won't play longer than 2 years."

He'll leave those 1M seasons on the table and that's it.

 

[NickH8]

I'm quite sure he plays this season, and then LTIRetires.

The "truth" he slipped to Swedish media last summer was, that "I probably won't play longer than 2 years."

He'll leave those 1M seasons on the table and that's it.

That's the hard truth. No sense in putting his back in further risk, especially when he's getting a massive pay cut. I appreciate what he did here and understand his likely decision, but damn it sucks.

 

[KJoe88]

I don't think so. I think it goes straight to Larkin. The c is a marketing tool as much as anything. The organization will be looking to sell captain larkin swag.

I agree with this a lot.

But I also think Larkin very much fits the Yzerman, Lidstrom, and Zetterberg mold too. Respectful, talented and a good locker room presence.

Larkin should get it if Z does in fact retire. There really isn’t anyone else who would get it except for someone like Abdelkader or Kronwall. Neither of which are cornerstones if the franchise.

I would like to see Mantha get ther other A once Kronner leaves. Completely changing of the guard.

 

[odin1981]

It is all but given he will be on one of our two spots of LTIR. Most likely if he does this year with Franzen. Next year just him and maybe Kronner (I forget how many more years he has). Maybe even we can eventually trade him for some type of pick to a cap floor team for a added benefit in one of his last two years.

 

[Ezekial]

It is all but given he will be on one of our two spots of LTIR. Most likely if he does this year with Franzen. Next year just him and maybe Kronner (I forget how many more years he has). Maybe even we can eventually trade him for some type of pick to a cap floor team for a added benefit in one of his last two years.

Kronwall is in the last year of his contract. Big E thru 19/20.

 

[Henkka]

It is all but given he will be on one of our two spots of LTIR. Most likely if he does this year with Franzen. Next year just him and maybe Kronner (I forget how many more years he has). Maybe even we can eventually trade him for some type of pick to a cap floor team for a added benefit in one of his last two years.

Kronwall contract will end next summer.

Both Franzen and Zetterberg on LTIR at next season would mean that we have 10.04M on LTIR.

If the cap is like 82 million, the summer cap overage maximum is 10% = 8.2 million. So the only cap overage space we can't use, is 1.8M.

This is pretty much meaningless thing. Kronwall, Howard, Vanek, Nyquist gone opens 18 million, and there isn't kind of any pressure for big raises. That summer could be big UFA splash.

I think we should go full after Erik Karlsson with 12M offer, if he's then still on the table.

 

[odin1981]

Kronwall contract will end next summer.

Both Franzen and Zetterberg on LTIR at next season would mean that we have 10.04M on LTIR.

If the cap is like 82 million, the summer cap overage maximum is 10% = 8.2 million. So the only cap overage space we can't use, is 1.8M.

This is pretty much meaningless thing. Kronwall, Howard, Vanek, Nyquist gone opens 18 million, and there isn't kind of any pressure for big raises. That summer could be big UFA splash.

I think we should go full after Erik Karlsson with 12M offer, if he's then still on the table.

Wouldn't surprise me either. However the question becomes would he accept a offer from us?

 

[ShelbyZ]

It is all but given he will be on one of our two spots of LTIR. Most likely if he does this year with Franzen. Next year just him and maybe Kronner (I forget how many more years he has). Maybe even we can eventually trade him for some type of pick to a cap floor team for a added benefit in one of his last two years.

Is there really a limit on how many players you can put on LTIR?

Kronwall is done after 18-19., Franzen after 19-20.

I doubt a cap floor team would trade a pick for Zetterbergs contract, when they could just overpay a couple of mediocre guys on the UFA market and not have to give up anything. The Red Wings best bet would be to trade the contract for some other form of bad salary (a bad contract with a lower cap hit but more real money buried in the AHL, a bigger chunk of shorter term bad salary, etc.) from a team that doesn't plan on hitting the cap ceiling. For example, if you took the pics off the Datsyuk trade, you essentially had the Red Wings trading a big chunk of cap space that was due $0 in actual salary (Datsyuk), in exchange for a smaller cap hit that was due to be paid actual money (Joe Vitale). It would be something like that.

 

[odin1981]

Is there really a limit on how many players you can put on LTIR?

Kronwall is done after 18-19., Franzen after 19-20.

I doubt a cap floor team would trade a pick for Zetterbergs contract, when they could just overpay a couple of mediocre guys on the UFA market and not have to give up anything. The Red Wings best bet would be to trade the contract for some other form of bad salary (a bad contract with a lower cap hit but more real money buried in the AHL, a bigger chunk of shorter term bad salary, etc.) from a team that doesn't plan on hitting the cap ceiling. For example, if you took the pics off the Datsyuk trade, you essentially had the Red Wings trading a big chunk of cap space that was due $0 in actual salary (Datsyuk), in exchange for a smaller cap hit that was due to be paid actual money (Joe Vitale). It would be something like that.

From what I read on the last CBA it was 2 players. Maybe I am wrong and it has been a few years since I read it but that is what I remember. I wouldn't expect a great pick (first 3 rounds) but maybe we can get a Hakan special (6th or 7th rounder most likely).

 

[Ezekial]

I doubt a cap floor team would trade a pick for Zetterbergs contract, when they could just overpay a couple of mediocre guys on the UFA market and not have to give up anything. The Red Wings best bet would be to trade the contract for some other form of bad salary (a bad contract with a lower cap hit but more real money buried in the AHL, a bigger chunk of shorter term bad salary, etc.) from a team that doesn't plan on hitting the cap ceiling. For example, if you took the pics off the Datsyuk trade, you essentially had the Red Wings trading a big chunk of cap space that was due $0 in actual salary (Datsyuk), in exchange for a smaller cap hit that was due to be paid actual money (Joe Vitale). It would be something like that.

The issue with that is a team would rather pay Z 1 mil of actual money a season with his cap hit putting them over the floor, rather than paying extra real money to make the cap floor.

 

[lilidk]

If wings have Zadina or Russ playing full time they need mentor . There's no better mentor in this team than Zetterberg but if they don't bring kids I d rather him to go

 

[Roy S]

It kind of sounds like Zetterberg is done.

Maybe the Wings aren't intentionally trying to tank, but they are going to be a really bad team again unless a lot of the young guys make huge leaps in performance. Zetterberg leaving would make them quite a bit worse too if that is what happens.

I wish Green was only a 1 year deal, but I don't think he and Vanek are bad signings. In some ways, barring injuries to them, the Wings are paying for future draft picks given that both players could be traded at a trade deadline in the future. I suspect Nyquist will be traded this coming deadline as well.

 

[Mijatovic]

Yes some of the recent chatter is starting to make me think its less than 50% chance Z is returning this season. Along with the signing of Vanek and the talk about us going after Filpula, it starts to make a little more sense if Z is less than healthy atm.

 

[FabricDetails]

Is it more likely that they just put him on LTIR for three years straight or would they just put on a show where for the next three seasons he plays for 10-30 games and then gets put on LTIR?

 

[GMR]

During a radio interview earlier this year, Howard guessed Abdelkader would be the next to wear it, for what it's worth.

I'd give it to Witkowski. He's big and has a beard and just looks like a leader straight out of Game of Thrones.

 

[lhsgolf19]

Take this with a pinch of salt

 

[obey86]

It is all but given he will be on one of our two spots of LTIR. Most likely if he does this year with Franzen. Next year just him and maybe Kronner (I forget how many more years he has). Maybe even we can eventually trade him for some type of pick to a cap floor team for a added benefit in one of his last two years.

Kronwall's contract is up after this season, thank goodness.

 

[PelagicJoe]

Take this with a pinch of salt

I won't really be surprised by either outcome. I mean, he doesn't have much to play for at this point. This team will not win another cup or even make the playoffs during the remainder of his career. Why risk further injury?