Player Discussion Zdeno Chara IV

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Same argument Vancouver makes against bruins.

Those two series are apples and oranges. Only a Vancouver fan would wrongly make that argument.

 

[Bruinaura]

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Not sure what they are waiting for ? If they think the backend can sustain the losses of both Krug and Chara and find replacements internally they are dreaming . It will be like Boychuck leaving , Bruins won’t make the playoffs. Need the big guy for one more year even if he isn’t what he once was .

Add the surgeries to 88/63 and people who think
they are a lock to make the PO are crazy. If Bergeron
misses 10 or so games with his issues fans are in
for a rude awakening.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

2011
Bos 0 - Van 1 - Burrows Bit Bergeron
Bos 2 - Van 3 (OT) - Burrows 2 goals and an assist when he should have been suspended
Van 1 - Bos 8 - 7 goal difference
Van 0 - Bos 4
Bos 0 - Van 1
Van 2 - Bos 5
Bos 4 - Van 0

Bruins won by 7 4 3 and 4. All of Vancouver's wins were by 1 goal.

2019
Stl 2 - Bos 4
Stl 3 - Bos 2 OT
Bos 7 - Stl 2
Bos 2 - Stl 4
Stl 2 - Bos 1
Bos 5 - Stl 1
Stl 4 - Bos 1

Bruin scored a hell of a lot more than Vancouver did in 2011. If game 5 isn't handed to STL and the Bruins win it, then they finish it off in 6. Two completely different series.

They lost and that is the only similarity that matters.

 

[Johnny4778]

Those two series are apples and oranges. Only a Vancouver fan would wrongly make that argument.

True - lived in Vancouver for 4 years and that’s the argument they made. That same bruins 2011 team doesn’t get bullied by Blues.

 

[22Brad Park]

True - lived in Vancouver for 4 years and that’s the argument they made. That same bruins 2011 team doesn’t get bullied by Blues.

Kevin Miller could have made huge difference that series.It went 7 games.Anyways that is over.

 

[RustyBruins72]

I am very surprised this hasn't been finalized.

I was thinking he was coming back to B's for sure. Now I think maybe he'll retire.

 

[mikelvl]

Starting to worry that Cam really doesn't want him back. Mistake if you ask me.

 

[Bruinaura]

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Starting to worry that Cam really doesn't want him back. Mistake if you ask me.

100% of the hockey decisions Cam makes suck. The guy shouldn’t sniff anything hockey related. Just be a figure head and handle everything else.

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

Wake up Don.

Sign Chara, un-sign Miller and trade Moore.

 

[Over the volcano]

Wake up Don.

Sign Chara, un-sign Miller and trade Moore.

Yes! No! Yes!

 

[hrdpuk]

Z has been great for Boston but both decision making with the puck and his skating speed are hampering whoever skates with him

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

As long as Bergeron doesn’t get the C, that means to me Chara is back.

 

[Bruinaura]

As long as Bergeron doesn’t get the C, that means to me Chara is back.

I don't think Bergeron would accept the C until it's made public that Chara is definitely not returning.

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

I don't think Bergeron would accept the C until it's made public that Chara is definitely not returning.

That’s what I mean. Until the day they announce Bergy gets the C, it means Chara is coming back.

 

[Over the volcano]

Has he been skating at Warrior... even on his own?

 

[DKH]

True - lived in Vancouver for 4 years and that’s the argument they made. That same bruins 2011 team doesn’t get bullied by Blues.

Disagree

I think the 2011 Chara, McQuaid, Thornton, Lucic etc. are petrified seeing Oskar Lundqvist, Ivan Barbashev, and Joel Edmondson come over the boards

So scary

 

[BMC]

Add the surgeries to 88/63 and people who think
they are a lock to make the PO are crazy. If Bergeron
misses 10 or so games with his issues fans are in
for a rude awakening.

Yes, Bergeron's groin issue has been lost in the shuffle with the injuries to #63 & 88 and all the speculation about Chara playing/not playing but I think it is at the point where #37's health has become something that will play a larger role from now on. Especially in a shortened season- he could miss 15-20 games in an 82 game schedule without having too much of a detrimental effect on the won/loss record but missing 15-20 games in a 56 game season could spell doom.

 

[BMC]

100% of the hockey decisions Cam makes suck. The guy shouldn’t sniff anything hockey related. Just be a figure head and handle everything else.

Yup, he's like a lot of players who were great on the ice but suck behind the bench or in the front office.

 

[Kalus]

My gut feeling is that a big part of this comes down to the cap hit he is willing to take.

Under $1M - already signed

$1M - $1.5M ok if they determine there isn't a good trade match out there for a good LHD

$1.5M to $2M - uneasy with it, I'd say no but wouldn't get too upset as a fan

Over $2M - not good cap management. Have to pass

 

[RHR37]

I dont understand why people are saying Boston got ripped off in 2019.

1) St Louis was the best team in hockey from January- Game 7. They deserved it.

2) Binnington channeled his inner Brodeur.

3) game 7 was 100% Bostons fault from coaching staff to players. Bad line up decisions, bad decisions on ice, lack of scoring in 1st period and mental breakdowns.

I've re-watched the whole series and quite frankly (besides the Accari trip in Game 5) the officiating was fine IMO.

Boston blew Game 2
Boston no showed in Game 5
Boston blew Game 7

Period!

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

I dont understand why people are saying Boston got ripped off in 2019.

1) St Louis was the best team in hockey from January- Game 7. They deserved it.

2) Binnington channeled his inner Brodeur.

3) game 7 was 100% Bostons fault from coaching staff to players. Bad line up decisions, bad decisions on ice, lack of scoring in 1st period and mental breakdowns.

I've re-watched the whole series and quite frankly (besides the Accari trip in Game 5) the officiating was fine IMO.

Boston blew Game 2
Boston no showed in Game 5
Boston blew Game 7

Period!

Simply, no. Outside of game 7 this is not correct.

Go count the hits by Blais and Sundqvist et al that were straight to the numbers, or jumped into, or late, if you so desire. After the Bruins scored four PP goals, St Louis changed nothing, but the league did.

This Cup will always have a * next to it and I will never respect the Blues. This isn't the Chicago series where the better team won, and earned it.

Binnington was actually quite terrible as well and very beatable. That Game 7 especially hurts when Marchand shoots right to his logo when he had the entire net open... the Bruins likely win...

This is about Chara however. That series is a good indication of why a healthy Chara aids this team, more so than the bubble format where so few players were effective.

 

[BruinsBtn]

I dont understand why people are saying Boston got ripped off in 2019.

1) St Louis was the best team in hockey from January- Game 7. They deserved it.

2) Binnington channeled his inner Brodeur.

3) game 7 was 100% Bostons fault from coaching staff to players. Bad line up decisions, bad decisions on ice, lack of scoring in 1st period and mental breakdowns.

I've re-watched the whole series and quite frankly (besides the Accari trip in Game 5) the officiating was fine IMO.

Boston blew Game 2
Boston no showed in Game 5
Boston blew Game 7

Period!

Riiiiiiiiiight

 

[Bruinaura]

Well, if Chara signs elsewhere or retires, I hope it happens in 2020 so the band-aid is ripped off in this disaster of a year.