Yeah, we’re definitely talking about two different Nikita Zaitsevs.
I did. Broken down you wrote "Leafs fans call Rielly/Zaitsev/Muzzin/Dermott good, if that's true, why where they so bad defensively?" I assume that's accurate?
I think his coach likes him a lot, actually.
I've watched dozens of Leafs games last year due to living in their viewer region and my eye test backs up what the stats confirm. Zaitsev is trash at the game of hockey
I can’t control what you want to assume. I asked a question. I was hoping for a real answer, not you acting like you’re being persecuted.
except he’s had two professional coaches this season both in the NHL and for team Russia, and both coaches trusted him with the most difficult defensive match ups at the absolute highest level.
Show me in my post where i said Zaitsev was good.
Damn he kind of sounds like a pretty trash Dman through you're scouting report. But I thought you were saying earlier he's really good and would benefit any team that trades for him??
I guess I don’t need to post when I have you here to tell me what I know and think. Apologies for adding stats and facts to my opinions. Maybe we can hear more about your feelings.
If Marincin's "stats" show he's good at anything, then there is zero need to continue. Because i actually had the displeasure of watching him play....not looking at graphs and charts.
Again, hockey player assessment is art not science. There is no scientific formula to determine a players worth. That is the only fact.
Once again I never said any number was a “trump card”. But they are a cards. You seem to be holding no cards what so ever and are just trying to bluff your way through this. I’m not really interested in your feelings. But if you can come back with anything that can back up anything you say hit me up.
The same NHL coach Leaf fans are trying to run out of town? The one with 8 playoff wins and 0 series wins in the 4 years he's been in Toronto, that's the guy you're trusting?
More credible: Pro coaches or JetsHomer? Hmmmm.
So if you’re not interested in feelings, what are you interested in? A google proficiency challenge? What can I link from the internet?
Surprisingly, professional coaches actual evaluate and respond by what they see. I've yet to see a coach whip out his ipad behind the bench to check advanced stats before deploying his players....
In order to show you that he’s doing his job we’d need to sit down and watch tape together. You know this won’t happen but it’s funny you think this somehow proves your point.
I cited two independent professional coaches both in the NHL and Russian hockey who both saw enough value in him to assign him the toughest defensive matchups including defending leads in the last minute.
It doesn’t seem logical to choose a bottom pairing guy for this sort of stuff, does it? Or maybe you’re saying they’re wrong and shouldn’t have deployed him like that?
I'm just trying to understand your line of thinking here:
The disconnect comes from player metrics vs team metrics. Coaches and teams absolutely use some team metrics in the video room while breaking down tape - there was actually a screen shot of his white board with something titled ‘heavy shifts’ which was interpreted as lines that had shifts with sustained pressure. Certain combinations, matchups etc are great data to have at your fingertips.... The problem starts when fans start thinking player metrics are included in this. They’re literally a scam and Babcock has denounced them on more than one occasion.
