Value of: Zaitsev + Bracco

[BruinsBtn]

Top 6 or bust makes no sense to me in the modern NHL. Teams should want skill on all lines.

Defensive skill too

 

[Funk21]

I'd be surprised if Bracco held much value at all until he made the NHL. For sure he's one of our better wing prospects and his production has been fantastic this year, but his size and need for offensive minutes mean he's a marginal player if he defaults. A little bit of star potential if he makes it, but there's still a lot of risk attached until he proves he's the real deal.

Apparently Bracco has grown a few inches since drafted and is listed on the Marlies as 5"11. If that is true or not I do not know but basically that is the same size as Marner and Nylander.

Personally I think we need to keep him unless something blows our doors off. The idea of having:
Nylander
Marner
Bracco

on the Right side could be deadly. Won't hurt either that he is under a million.

 

[skyo]

Why would a cost-conscious team like Florida take on $4.5M for the next 5 years?

hmm maybe if they want to go full Russian aha,
Panarin, Bobrovsky, Dadonov, Zaitsev.

 

[WHISTLERNATE]

There is no need to attach Bracco to trade Zaitsev , Zaitsev is overpaid but he's not terrible

Zaitsev at 4.5 for 5 more years is terrible, and he will need a significant add to be moved. Every GM in the league knows that the Leafs will need to shed salary for next year to make room for Marner, Matthews and Kapanen. They are not going to give the leafs an easy out.

 

[LeafGrief]

Apparently Bracco has grown a few inches since drafted and is listed on the Marlies as 5"11. If that is true or not I do not know but basically that is the same size as Marner and Nylander.

Personally I think we need to keep him unless something blows our doors off. The idea of having:
Nylander
Marner
Bracco

on the Right side could be deadly. Won't hurt either that he is under a million.

Even if he's grown a few inches, he's still an offense-only player. If he can't produce at the NHL level he won't be an NHL player. That said, I'm fully in favour of keeping him. Just because I don't think he has value in a trade doesn't mean that I don't think he's a good prospect to have. We'll keep him unless another team loves him, because we wouldn't get much for him and he could still be a hidden gem. Compared to a prospect like Grundstrom, who clearly held value and got us something we wanted in return, holding onto Bracco is an easy call.

 

[Ricky Bobby]

Zatisev isn't going anywhere before the trade deadline.

More than anything they need to split him and Gardiner up. They clearly have no chemistry together.

Trading Zaitsev would just open up another hole in the D before the playoffs. Sure he's overpaid but he's still a better option than Ozhiganov or Holl.

In the off-season they'll re-explore trading him.

 

[DougGilmour93]

Leafs pretty much have to move Zaitsev's contract to keep the core together and signed long tern. I know there's other possible routes/scenerios but that contract is a huge anchor and is going to hinder progress moving forward. Bracco is having a breakout offensive year in the AHL and has a really high ceiling. Leafs are set at RW so he could be expendable.

Zaitsev + Bracco
For
Your team's bad expiring contract

Takers?

Zaitsev doesn’t have negative value.

 

[koyvoo]

Zaitsev doesn’t have negative value.

What do you think teansceould be willing to pay for him considering his contract and level of play for the past two seasons?

Negative value may be stretch, but he doesn’t hold any actual value. Wouldn’t every team in the league be making a horrible deal by buying him for even a 3rd or 4th rounder?

 

[ole ole]

There is no need to attach Bracco to trade Zaitsev , Zaitsev is overpaid but he's not terrible

He stinks.

 

[Dr Quincy]

It's extremely, extremely rare for a right shot to play LW in the NHL. Even then, I don't think Bracco is cut out for a 3rd line role. He's a top-6-or-bust prospect, as others have mentioned.

There's no such thing as a top 6 or bust prospect or a "not cut out for a 3rd line role". Lines don't have to be constructed like Sega's NHL 95.

 

[BruinsBtn]

There's no such thing as a top 6 or bust prospect or a "not cut out for a 3rd line role". Lines don't have to be constructed like Sega's NHL 95.

Tell it to Jim Rutherford

 

[Dr Quincy]

Tell it to Jim Rutherford

Oh there are absolute closed minded dinosaurs out there no doubt. But there should never be any reason to have a line that can't score out on the ice.

 

[DougGilmour93]

What do you think teansceould be willing to pay for him considering his contract and level of play for the past two seasons?

Negative value may be stretch, but he doesn’t hold any actual value. Wouldn’t every team in the league be making a horrible deal by buying him for even a 3rd or 4th rounder?

I concur. He doesn’t hold much value. I do believe a sideways trade could be possible.

 

[Tripod]

Zaitsev and his contract is the new AMac and his.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Zaitsev doesn’t have negative value.

Hahahaha. leaf fans....

 

[LDN]

Ferland & Hamilton?

 

[Carltons Cup]

I'd accept a wet rag and a case of beer to shoot zaitsev to the sun.

 

[Jay haller]

Ferland & Hamilton?

Canes have to add a 1st

 

[Dijock94]

Why do we need another 4.5 on defense, with Shatty, Staal, Smith, Skjei? Especially one with 5 more years.

Because we would be using available cap space we don’t need to obtain a good prospect in Bracco

 

[justafan22]

pass from the Leafs. McQuaid is a really bad player even in a 3rd pairing role by all of the measurables, and Dubas is a big proponent of the measurables. Zaitsev is sub par, but he's been passable as a #4D since about mid November, there would be some benefit to shedding his contract but he's been trending up so we're probably better to wait as long as possible to move him if that's what we're going to do - he probably won't look as bad as he does now and there would be less term left on his contract, so he'll cost less to get rid of the longer we wait

I'd do it. Bracco with Zaitsev for a pending UFA is a good deal

 

[TGWL]

Because we would be using available cap space we don’t need to obtain a good prospect in Bracco

I don't think Bracco is worth taking a contact that long for a d-man we don't even need. We'd be better off just signing Hayes or Zucc again, then taking Bracco and a 4.5 cap hit d-man.

 

[Randy Randerson]

I'd do it. Bracco with Zaitsev for a pending UFA is a good deal

hold on Zaitsev until the summer, his possession numbers have been improving for 2 and a half months now - better results and less term mean he'll get easier to deal over time

 

[Dijock94]

I don't think Bracco is worth taking a contact that long for a d-man we don't even need. We'd be better off just signing Hayes or Zucc again, then taking Bracco and a 4.5 cap hit d-man.

I guess I can agree with you on that.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Ferland & Hamilton?

This is now officially the worst Toronto-Carolina proposal on the trade board and that’s saying a lot.

Congratulations.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Defensive skill too

Sure, if possible, but why on the 3rd line? Why not defensive skill on the 1st? Why not scoring on the 4th?

Ideally you want players good at all things, but barring that.... if a player does 1 thing well, why would a 1-way defensive player be any more valuable than a 1-way offensive player? And why would you want an offensively below avg 3rd line instead of a defensively below average 3rd line?

#becausethat'sthewaythingshavealwaysbeendone doesn't fly for me