Zack Kassian kicks Erik Cernak with his skate blade (Mod warning in OP)

[CupofOil]

Skinner has no track record. Kassian only a month ago mauled a player from behind after getting mad about 2 clean hits.

This guy is a danger to everyone on the ice and needs to be put down before he seriously injured someone.

Oh so this is because you're still butt hurt about the Kassian/Tkachuk incident. Maybe get over it?

Yes he will get extra games for being a repeat offender and deservedly so but the overreactions about how incredibly dangerous it was area a bit too much.

 

[BLNY]

A proposal: There is no amount of footage that justifies kicking another player.

Discuss.

Agreed. No excusing for using the blade to thrust kick a guy.

 

[McDraekke]

I will call bull**** on your reactions guys. Fan bases get called because of comments like yours. If it was Cernak doing the same to Kassian, your posts wouldn't have been the same and you cannot deny it.

The play was stupid, while there was no apparent injury, the risk was high and the move dangerous. There is no excuse in the world that would make that kicking motion be ''okay''.

A) you can’t tell people how they’d react.
B) I never said it was “okay.” In fact I said it’s not something that you should ever do, and he should get double-digit suspension for it.

 

[Coffey]

Again, this got 2 games. TWO.
With Kassians history, tack on another 5.

 

[The Macho King]

That’s how I feel about it. You can’t do it but this was more of a push than a kick. Still wrong and still deserving of supplemental discipline but this doesn’t compare to the guy who stomped on another player imo.

"Your honor - I didn't stab him! I was pushing him with my knife!"

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Mods... can we please have the OP updated with the longer clip above that... you know... actually shows the play in context rather than some amateur smart-phone vid. It might help MODERATE the discussion here if people actually see the full footage.

There's no footage or angle that's going to make it ok for Kassian to kick at another player, just stop.

 

[Kranix]

Mods... can we please have the OP updated with the longer clip above that... you know... actually shows the play in context rather than some amateur smart-phone vid. It might help MODERATE the discussion here if people actually see the full footage.

The footage of...you know...him kicking a...like...you know... a guy?

 

[Czechboy]

 

[HuskyBruinPride]

Something like this should be an automatic 20 games. Just incredibly dumb and could be incredibly dangerous.

 

[bucks_oil]

A proposal: There is no amount of footage that justifies kicking another player.

Discuss.

A proposal: people should be encouraged to actually watch the full play in context and then discuss

 

[God King Fudge]

Hockey used to be a man's game. It's not figure skating, guys. If we take kicking out of the game, is it even hockey anymore?

Thanks a lot, Bettman.

 

[Kranix]

A proposal: people should be encouraged to actually watch the full play in context and then discuss

The larger context of him kicking the guy?

 

[God King Fudge]

A proposal: people should be encouraged to actually watch the full play in context and then discuss

A counter: A player kicked another player, and no matter how many hours of footage you would like people to watch, it still ends with Kassian using his skate to kick someone.

Lmao. What planet do you exist on my dude?

 

[JoVel]

Again, this got 2 games. TWO.
With Kassians history, tack on another 5.

That's almost a decade ago... It'll have very little to do with what Kassian gets. Not to mention that it was pretty widely agreed upon that Skinner should've gotten a lot more.

 

[JoVel]

A proposal: people should be encouraged to actually watch the full play in context and then discuss

What exactly does the full play add to it? It doesn't justify what Kassian did in any way.

 

[ZeHockeyFan]

A proposal: people should be encouraged to actually watch the full play in context and then discuss

Saw it and I still conclude that nothing justifies kicking at a player with sharp blades. He could very well squirm out with the "not intentional" argument, but he is responsible for what is without doubt, the most dangerous equipment a hockey player has on him.

 

[KevinRedkey]

3 games is fair IMO

 

[bucks_oil]

There's no footage or angle that's going to make it ok for Kassian to kick at another player, just stop.

Stop what? I think people would benefit from seeing the full play.

I personally think it is suspension worthy, but there are elements not shown in the truncated clip that are relevant in determining the degree of punishment... for example there is zero reaction from Cernik... not even a slash when he gets up. Either Cernik is a saint, or he didn't perceive it as dangerous as many here did (including me by the way).

"Just stop"... Maybe you should consider that perhaps you are being quick to judge. You'd already assumed my position (incorrectly) before I volunteered it and before you asked.

Is your position that people should NOT see the full play in question? That seems odd.

 

[CupofOil]

"Your honor - I didn't stab him! I was pushing him with my knife!"

Yeah, because that's the same thing.

 

[thadd]

I'm an Oil fan and I think the NHL has to throw the book at him.
I don't want to see that stuff in the NHL at all.
It's awfully reminiscent of Chris Simon.

 

[Sugi21]

Some pretty embarrassing hot takes in here

Not as embarrassing as your profile pic dude lol with all due respect!

 

[bucks_oil]

Saw it and I still conclude that nothing justifies kicking at a player with sharp blades. He could very well squirm out with the "not intentional" argument, but he is responsible for what is without doubt, the most dangerous equipment a hockey player has on him.

A completely reasonable take in my opinion. Thanks for watching the full context.

 

[Eisen]

Sorry, only about 8 seconds.




In any case, I'm not a big fan of the kick and I don't think it belongs in the game, but I also don't really blame Kass for the urgency to get up.

It doesn't justify anything at all. Trying to catch up to a stupid hockey play does not warrant potential injury. Amd that potential was pretty big.

 

[Bedards Dad]

Sorry, only about 8 seconds.




In any case, I'm not a big fan of the kick and I don't think it belongs in the game, but I also don't really blame Kass for the urgency to get up.

You may want to practice your counting. That was 5 seconds. Not 15 like you originally claimed, or 8 like you adjusted to. 5 seconds after Kassian pulled Cernak down he kicked him in the chest.

 

[ToDavid]

For anyone calling it soft, go back and watch the replays where people have been cut by a skate blade. Often the skate barely touches them. Hell, think back to the last time you cut yourself cooking, all it takes is a tiny slip. You don't kick people with sharp blades on your feet. Doesn't matter if it was a flying dropkick or a gentle nudge.

And for people calling for 20+ games or the season, let's be realistic. He's getting <10 and the only reason it's even that high is because of his history. My bet would be on 6.