The few bringing up Babcock here may want to read about Franzen’s experience. Franzen called him the “worst person” he’s ever met and Chelios accused him of verbally assaulting players. Not to mention the BS he pulled in Toronto.
Yzerman end of season press conference
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Yzerman is not hiring a coach to be a fall guy and ultimately bring Gallant in.
Gallant is not taking the Rangers job as they exit a rebuild to leave a competitive team to join a Red Wings job as they exit a rebuild.
If things go well, the Gallant ship has sailed, and you can kiss that dream goodbye.
Do you think that the coach we are getting now will be the one we will be competetive in playoffs with?
SimonEdvinssonAtSix
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Maybe thats because new information comes to light and influences opinions to change.
We can't all be steadfast in contrarian stances just out of spite.
Idk if anyone has listened to Larks interview but its pretty obvious that if this doesn't change next year he's not going to resign/request a trade.
I think that's the point of changing coaches right now, yes.
Once you crack the playoffs and elevate the expectations level, the leash will get a bit shorter, but I fully expect this next hire to have at minimum the same length of time under Yzerman that Blashill had (3 years) to get the team over the hurdles and into the playoffs. Obviously he could flounder and be canned earlier, but I don't think Yzerman is short sighted enough to hire a bridge coach after letting go a bridge coach.
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Bingo Bango!
I don't think that's obvious at all and I don't see what you're seeing after watching the presser.
Also, I think it bodes well for the future that aside from some soreness during training camp Bert's back was a total non issue during the season.
OgeeOgelthorpe
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MBH
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We didn't know. We didn't have links. But we knew.
It was already well known around Detroit that the players hated Babcock's guts.
We knew in 12-13 that Flippula left Detroit, despite being great friends with so many Red Wings, and would not even consider staying to play if Babcock was the coach.
The media didn't cover it - because the Detroit sports media doesn't have any guts.
But lots of fans knew it. You can't keep that hate covered.
It was wasn't a hard fact - but many of us on these boards knew it was true.
I remember when Commie broke the door down, people shit all over him.
When was that? 2014? 2015?
Some people need safety in numbers to have opinions.
Once the "Babcock is trash" narrative was safe, people followed.
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I didn't get this impression at all. But if it gets to that point then meh. Good luck to him. I honestly don't feel particularly "married" to him as a Red Wing.
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Consider he is fresh off a long season where they lost a lot of games. Probably wouldn't want to sit there and answer questions either. May not really mean anything.
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It was well known.
Today, it's accepted as fact.
And besides, most of the "narrative police" around wings boards shit all over Commodore. Isn't that "first person?"
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He said he hopes that he gets an extension done this summer. He did not want to seem complacent so he said "you cant be in this situation forever". I think thats hyperbole not context on wanting out of this situation. He understands he could get traded though or not signed, but he indicated that he wants to stay here and wants an extension.
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Killerjas
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Sounds clear to me. A high pace, high ceiling guy with flashes of elite skill. So no Geekie or Kasper
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True, but people are pretty duplicitous when it comes to that. Depending on the issue, it could be : "It's only hearsay. Let's not have a witch hunt." Or, it could be: "Where there's smoke, there's fire." And a lot of times it's the same person, but different issues. We can be very morally flexible when it suits us.
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Mike Commodore rips Mike Babcock, claims Columbus coach waived him over jealousy - Yahoo Sports
Mike Commodore was a fan favorite during his NHL days, winning a Stanley Cup with the Carolina Hurricanes and being one of our more whimsical characters (although he never got around to fulfilling his destiny and wearing No. 64). He’s … Continue reading →
Shaman464
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Commodore isn't what one would call an unbiased source. He blamed Babcock for ruining his career long before he joined Detroit.2013
Mike Commodore rips Mike Babcock, claims Columbus coach waived him over jealousy - Yahoo Sports
Mike Commodore was a fan favorite during his NHL days, winning a Stanley Cup with the Carolina Hurricanes and being one of our more whimsical characters (although he never got around to fulfilling his destiny and wearing No. 64). He’s … Continue reading →sports.yahoo.com
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He's talking about Elmer Soderblom.
He's saying that he was already powerful and explosive when he was at training camp two years ago.
Exactly. He wants to start negotiations with them to. Thats when Larkin and Bert can ask if he plans on being more competitive and spending some of that boatload of cap space.
Some here have recommended Torts. He has plenty of detractors as well from players, the media, etc.2013
Mike Commodore rips Mike Babcock, claims Columbus coach waived him over jealousy - Yahoo Sports
Mike Commodore was a fan favorite during his NHL days, winning a Stanley Cup with the Carolina Hurricanes and being one of our more whimsical characters (although he never got around to fulfilling his destiny and wearing No. 64). He’s … Continue reading →
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Last year alone he has criticized both Connor McDavid and Trevor Zegras so how do you expect a team coached by him to attract those kind of players.
- “The general consensus is that Tortorella’s a horrible coach for most teams.”
- “Rangers fire bully bench boss John Tortorella for all the right reasons.”
- “No doubt about it, John Tortorella is a polarizing coach; he was before, during, and might be one after his time with the Columbus Blue Jackets.”
- “As usual, Tortorella’s season in Columbus had its controversies with the players.”
- “The same inflexibility that squeezes every last drop of talent out of a roster also alienates his best players….”
(from “John Tortorella Doesn’t Know How To Be Any Other Way,” Barry Petchesky, Defector.com, May 10, 2021)
Babs actually has better relations with the media, his players and other teams than Torts and he doesn't usually criticize players on other teams like Torts does.
Sure you will find the occasional player who doesn't like how he was treated but you get that from every team when they felt they didn't get the ice time they deserved like Mike Commodore has been telling the whole world.
Are you also aware, that 85%* of Red Wings fans preferred Mike Babcock to Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump and Adolf Hitler as the next Red Wings head coach
* One person also answered that Ben Simon sucks donkey balls
* One person also answered that Ben Simon sucks donkey balls
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