Proposal: Your team’s available Left side D-Man to the Habs for a list of available players and picks

[CHaracter79]

i was looking at the stars as a potential trade partner, man have they drafted poorly over the last 12 years

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Add Fabbro. Swap Hudon for Lehkonen.

We arent trading you a 23 star winger and a 19 yr old potential top 4 dman,plussss a 20 goal 2 way young winger for a 28 yr old Josi, as good as he may be.

Fabbro=Mete
Hudon+Drouin = Josi

Exchange picks if necessary.

Are you serious? Josi >>>>> Hudon and Drouin wtf

 

[jfhabs]

Are you serious? Josi >>>>> Hudon and Drouin wtf

As much as I like Drouin and the way he came back this year. I would do the original deal without thinking too much. Josi, Weber, Petry would probably be top 5 in the league and then everyone falls into the right chair. With Price behind too...

We also have a lot of good young players up coming in front (Suzuki, Poehling, Ylonen, Olofsson), anyway more then we have at LHD

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Why pay Poehling when we could swap Petry for a younger LHD.
some team would pay high on the swap if they are stacked on the left side and wanted to make a push this year or next year.

Bean would be available, no ?

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Borodin

The Viking, Borodin, son of Odin

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

That package makes no sense at all.

Teams that want Petry want to win short term then you add a prospect and pick for team who are looking longterm.

not true....

Just look at Buffalo this summer. They went for picks: first round, second round and Tage thompson, AND older pieces: Skinner, Sheary, Sobotka,


A team can go for picks and prospects while they push for a cup and wants to add some wiser, more mature and experienced guys.

 

[Canovin]

Sekera for a pick. You can keep Petry and Poehling

 

[DoobieDubas]

IMO Juulsen is ready to make the jump to 2nd pair.

lol

 

[PriceIsGod]

As much as I like Drouin and the way he came back this year. I would do the original deal without thinking too much. Josi, Weber, Petry would probably be top 5 in the league and then everyone falls into the right chair. With Price behind too...

We also have a lot of good young players up coming in front (Suzuki, Poehling, Ylonen, Olofsson), anyway more then we have at LHD

I think you should think some more then. Josi is a UFA in a couple of years, what if we lose him for nothing? Our Top 6 LW's after Drouin are who? Tatar and Byron?? (You trade away Drouin and Lehkonen). You lost one of your few good LD prospects in Mete which you yourself say we have less of. Suzuki = RW, Poehling = C, Ylonen = RW (I think?), Olofsson = C maybe gets used as a winger. By the time most of these guys are ready we could have already lost Josi to free agency. Meanwhile, our current roster without Drouin, Mete, and Lehkonen but adding Josi probably gets us a bubble team spot where we likely don't accomplish much in the playoffs and we get some eh draft picks instead of just tanking and trying to draft a stud LD.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Duncan Keith. Unite them again!

Not interested in Keith for futures when Keith is age 35 and signed till 39.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Gardiner + 1st (conditional: turns to a 2nd if he re-signs)

for

Petry

I don't hate it. But I rather focus on futures if I'm moving Petry. Habs can easily move Petry to LD and not be forced to overpay for Gardiner as a UFA.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Gardiner fits the bill although he's probably older than what the OP is lookinf for but I'd rather try to get him from UFA next summer and instead take a guaranteed 1st+ for Petry. Habs shouldn't be spending major assets for rentals and I think the Leafs are also better off by keeping Gardiner if they really wanna make a cup run this year.

Edit: remove the condition? Much more tempting. That would be something I'd seriously consider.

It likely ends up Petry for a late 1st. Why? Gardiner is not re-signing with the Habs. I doubt it. I agree with just trying to sign him as a UFA vs trading for him now. I just wonder how many teams throw $6M+ at Gardiner? If the Habs feel he is the answer to Weber's partner, then offer him $7M and I think Gardiner considers it. If he is not interested, no big deal. Cost us nothing

Gardiner / Weber
Petry / Juulsen

The offer is not bad. But it helps the Leafs out more than the Habs IMO. If we move Petry, it should be for a package of futures, not just one piece with the hopes the other guy signs.

 

[danyhabsfan]

not true....

Just look at Buffalo this summer. They went for picks: first round, second round and Tage thompson, AND older pieces: Skinner, Sheary, Sobotka,


A team can go for picks and prospects while they push for a cup and wants to add some wiser, more mature and experienced guys.

very different situation during the summer.

 

[57special]

You guys sure soured on Reilly in a hurry.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Why pay Poehling when we could swap Petry for a younger LHD.
some team would pay high on the swap if they are stacked on the left side and wanted to make a push this year or next year.

Bean would be available, no ?

Agreed. I don't support moving Petry in a lateral move. I just rather trade Petry for a solid futures return (1st, Grade A prospect on LD, and a future 2nd type return). If we have no takers, just move Petry to the left side.

 

[Habs Halifax]

You guys sure soured on Reilly in a hurry.

His play in his own end is not great. I still think he is a good depth piece and his skating and vision is solid. He just is over matched in terms of strength in his own end and the Habs need a solid D so Price is no exposed.

 

[jfhabs]

I think you should think some more then. Josi is a UFA in a couple of years, what if we lose him for nothing? Our Top 6 LW's after Drouin are who? Tatar and Byron?? (You trade away Drouin and Lehkonen). You lost one of your few good LD prospects in Mete which you yourself say we have less of. Suzuki = RW, Poehling = C, Ylonen = RW (I think?), Olofsson = C maybe gets used as a winger. By the time most of these guys are ready we could have already lost Josi to free agency. Meanwhile, our current roster without Drouin, Mete, and Lehkonen but adding Josi probably gets us a bubble team spot where we likely don't accomplish much in the playoffs and we get some eh draft picks instead of just tanking and trying to draft a stud LD.

Maybe, but we're not exactly tanking right now anyway.
I'd put back Domi to LW and roll with (starting next year) :
Center : Kotka, Danault, Poehling, Peca, Evans
LW : Domi, Tatar, Byron, Hudon
RW : Gallagher, Suzuki, Armia, Deslauriers
LHD : Josi, Benn, Schlemko
RHD : Weber, Petry, Juulsen
Ouellet, Kulak & Reilly

 

[Hostile Offer]

You guys sure soured on Reilly in a hurry.

He has the tools and if he figures it out he could be the answer but he's not that at least now. Also Julien doesn't seem to like him.

 

[PriceIsGod]

Maybe, but we're not exactly tanking right now anyway.
I'd put back Domi to LW and roll with (starting next year) :
Center : Kotka, Danault, Poehling, Peca, Evans
LW : Domi, Tatar, Byron, Hudon
RW : Gallagher, Suzuki, Armia, Deslauriers
LHD : Josi, Benn, Schlemko
RHD : Weber, Petry, Juulsen
Ouellet, Kulak & Reilly

1) The fact that you want to re-sign Benn and make him your 2nd pairing LD next year truly scares me. HE NEEDS TO GO. The fact that Schlemko makes your bottom pair is kind of fair but considering you have Kulak and Reilly sitting on the bench under these guys.. once again truly terrified.

2) Back to Josi's UFA status (I already explained the risk of just losing him for nothing) IF we re-sign him what kind of numbers do you expect him to ask? A top pairing LD who would be 30 who can hit the UFA market. Domi will also need a contract extension at the same time, so will Juulsen. Reilly (Who should crack your lineup over Benn and Schlemko btw), Hudon, and Armia also will have had to sign an extension by this point and I can't see them asking for less then they currently make. Byron also already signed and will be making about 2.2mil more a season. After the trade and Byron's extension you have around 10Mil to work with to pay these guys a raise. Good luck.

3) Kotkaniemi already on the first line? After just 1/3rd of a rookie season playing good as a third line center you're ready to give the kid the nod to play first line center next season?

4) Domi has been a gem so far as a center, why make him a winger???

5) We're not exactly tanking but we could easily find ourselves there. I mean look at our division Toronto, Tampa, Buffalo, Boston... It's gunna be rough in the playoffs if we manage to make them over those guys. We're currently the last wildcard in the east with many teams right behind us.

This is why we think trades over before "accepting them without really thinking"

 

[Jared Dunn]

Gardiner + 1st (conditional: turns to a 2nd if he re-signs)

for

Petry

Less than no interest in paying Gardiner what he's due to make, so it ends up being a late 1st for Petry which is about as ugly as they come

 

[abo9]

Where is the angry reaction on this website ?

 

[Draiskull]

Can take Sekera for free

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Sekera + edm 2nd for a 7th

 

[jfhabs]

1) The fact that you want to re-sign Benn and make him your 2nd pairing LD next year truly scares me. HE NEEDS TO GO. The fact that Schlemko makes your bottom pair is kind of fair but considering you have Kulak and Reilly sitting on the bench under these guys.. once again truly terrified.

2) Back to Josi's UFA status (I already explained the risk of just losing him for nothing) IF we re-sign him what kind of numbers do you expect him to ask? A top pairing LD who would be 30 who can hit the UFA market. Domi will also need a contract extension at the same time, so will Juulsen. Reilly (Who should crack your lineup over Benn and Schlemko btw), Hudon, and Armia also will have had to sign an extension by this point and I can't see them asking for less then they currently make. Byron also already signed and will be making about 2.2mil more a season. After the trade and Byron's extension you have around 10Mil to work with to pay these guys a raise. Good luck.

3) Kotkaniemi already on the first line? After just 1/3rd of a rookie season playing good as a third line center you're ready to give the kid the nod to play first line center next season?

4) Domi has been a gem so far as a center, why make him a winger???

5) We're not exactly tanking but we could easily find ourselves there. I mean look at our division Toronto, Tampa, Buffalo, Boston... It's gunna be rough in the playoffs if we manage to make them over those guys. We're currently the last wildcard in the east with many teams right behind us.

This is why we think trades over before "accepting them without really thinking"

You sound a little entitled... not sure I want to really keep this going... Look, I just feel like players of that caliber (top 10 defenseman) are almost impossible to acquire. I feel like it would be easier to replace Drouin, Mete, Lehkonen... that's it.

 

[MasterMatt25]

I don't really get why Habs fans want to move Petry so badly, he's a really good player that's signed for a couple of years. Having your RD be Weber, Petry and Juulsen is really good for the next few years. I think the Habs would be better off trying to trade for a rental or a short term option from a bad team and using them with Weber, or throwing a **** load of money at someone like Gardiner in free agency.

I don't know how good Montreal is at rehabilitating defensemen, but I think you'd be better off getting a struggling young player in a buy low situation and trying to fix them. Do what the Penguins did with Schultz.

Because no one's on agreement on what's the best thing to do and we keep changing our minds