Yeah Yeah Yeah, Patience. How Long Will That Take? (CBA & Lockout Discussion) XXI

[W75]

Yeah. He's the best player in the league. That has some importance, no?

Actually, in the negotiations. Don't think so. They are only in the way. This is a part of Fehr's PR tricks and stunts. And Fehr probably even thinks that it somehow works for them.

It's like politicians. I always hate when they're speaking in front of the cameras, and they must have some weird bunch of useless adjutants behind them. In real life, it only looks stupid.

 

[Deebo]

Everyone likes to compare the NHL to the NBA, huge difference is, the NHL is well known for lockouts. 3 lockouts in the past 17 years is a terrible record. The way talks went in the NBA can't be compared to the talks going on right now because the NHL owners are quite comfortable letting the season go if they get nasty. Can't say the same with NBA owners.

The NBA had 2 in the same period, you're talking about 1 more lockout.

 

[Boltsfan2029]

Yeah. He's the best player in the league. That has some importance, no?

To CBA negotiations? Absolutely not, unless he has some qualifications to participate. Being the best player doesn't make you the smartest, give you any special insight or make you the best suited to participate in critically important business matters. If Crosby doesn't have those, his presence is no more important than mine would be.

 

[Stats01]

The NBA had 2 in the same period, you're talking about 1 more lockout.

One more is too much

 

[CerebralGenesis]

The NBA had 2 in the same period, you're talking about 1 more lockout.

We can talk about games lost to labor disputes instead.

 

[Deebo]

We can talk about games lost to labor disputes instead.

The point was having lockouts in the past doesn't mean they can't solve this one.

 

[GoSensGo6172]

Guys, remember this rule when the inevitable "talks have broken down" moment happens: Lockouts have a forward progress rule. Meaning if they get really close, then one side backs way off, it's not legit, if they were really close at one moment they will be again soon. The NBA lockout last year got amazingly close, then things went to hell and the union decertified and everything crapped their pants that the season was screwed, but my logic at the time was "forward progress rule", the fact that they got close before that is what mattered, and like a week later they met and sealed the deal

Dude that happened already, it was the three week stalemate that we just saw. That wouldn't happen again when they are this close.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/2012/11/06/coz_for_thought_junior_hockey_notebook/

-- Many NHL people are getting the sense that this lockout thing will come to an end by the end of the week.

 

[GordieHoweHatTrick]

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/2012/11/06/coz_for_thought_junior_hockey_notebook/

You and I both, Marc

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Sportsnet is reliable, right? (Just making sure)

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Sportsnet is reliable, right? (Just making sure)

It's their CHL broadcast color guy who wrote it, he's solid and plugged in though.

 

[CerebralGenesis]

The point was having lockouts in the past doesn't mean they can't solve this one.

And I'll agree with that. Along with the hope that this is a long CBA because I would bet on another labor dispute after this one. Oh NHL, you are quite pathetic.

 

[GoSensGo6172]

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/2012/11/06/coz_for_thought_junior_hockey_notebook/

Wow, I love that comment but it is so freaking random and out of place in that article. Just throw in amongst all that junior talk

 

[GoSensGo6172]

Maybe comments like that should be reserved for AFTER today's talks? I am as excited on anyone, but the absolute last thing any of us should be doing is buying every little bit of optimism that's being thrown around.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

It's their CHL broadcast color guy who wrote it, he's solid and plugged in though.

Consider my optimism slowly returning

 

[GordieHoweHatTrick]

Maybe comments like that should be reserved for AFTER today's talks? I am as excited on anyone, but the absolute last thing any of us should be doing is buying every little bit of optimism that's being thrown around.

Excited? You should read the last lockout thread

 

[Bubba Thudd]

My sources say that they've come to an agreement!!! They're ordering dinner from Luigi's.





Negotiations will begin "soon..."

 

[OneMoreAstronaut]

Dude that happened already, it was the three week stalemate that we just saw. That wouldn't happen again when they are this close.

We don't really know how close they are.

 

[Twine Seeking Missle]

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/2012/11/06/coz_for_thought_junior_hockey_notebook/

Hmmm where have I heard that before....

 

[Hanklite*]

What press would even be around tonight to report on happenings...

 

[Dubi Doo]

Actually, in the negotiations. Don't think so. They are only in the way. This is a part of Fehr's PR tricks and stunts. And Fehr probably even thinks that it somehow works for them.

It's like politicians. I always hate when they're speaking in front of the cameras, and they must have some weird bunch of useless adjutants behind them. In real life, it only looks stupid.

Wasn't Crosby at the last meeting back in October ? I wouldn't read too much into it.

 

[njdevsfn95]

My sources say that they've come to an agreement!!! They're ordering dinner from Luigi's.

but they are all scum compared to Krusty.

Actually, thats kinda true in this case.

 

[Hanklite*]

We are past an hour...

 

[RandV]

I think having Crosby at negotiations is important. I always though Crosby looks a lot like Tom Welling who played Clark Kent in Smallville, and much like how Superman is the best super hero Crosby is also the best hockey player. So having him there is kind of like having Superman at a Justice League meeting, and Superman is kind of a big deal here.

 

[WayneSid9987]

Sid wasn't even planning on going btw. He was set to hit the Madonna concert tonight at Consol and things changed overnight.

Probably Fehr just wanting the name there.