Prospect Info: Yaroslav Askarov, #11 Overall Pick

[Tysonson3]

I dont understand this, why he cant develop here?

I think that is the plan eventually. Finish off his khl contract in 2(3?) years then sign him and let him play in Milwaukee. If he has a great year then he’ll likely be up in the nhl as a backup the next at age 22 ish. That’s how I see it going anyways

 

[Legionnaire11]

I think that is the plan eventually. Finish off his khl contract in 2(3?) years then sign him and let him play in Milwaukee. If he has a great year then he’ll likely be up in the nhl as a backup the next at age 22 ish. That’s how I see it going anyways

Yeah, as much potential as he has, I don't want to rush him. If he's doing well developing in the KHL, let him stay there. I'd rather see him force his way into the NHL because he's too good for wherever he's at, instead of rushing him into the league because we're desperate. We absolutely need to get this one right.

 

[Scoresberg]

Askarov starting for SKA-1946. Game 3, SKA leads 2-0.

 

[Flgatorguy87]

Sweet. Ill get to stream 2 games at work today. Not bad for a slow rainy Monday.

 

[Scoresberg]

You cannot NOT be giddy about Askarov when you look at Vasilevsky and what he’s accomplished early in his NHL career.

We’re talking about pretty similar players who are on a similar career trajectories.

 

[Scoresberg]

Spencer Knight already signed his ELC and joined the Panthers. 1st rounder in 2019.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Spencer Knight already signed his ELC and joined the Panthers. 1st rounder in 2019.

If Askarov was playing in the NCAA and had dominated there for 2 years already, I would try to sign him sooner too. Get him to Milwaukee to play against pros, just as Knight will next year on Florida's farm team. But as it is, Askarov is already going to be playing in the 2nd-best pro league in the world next year in the KHL. So it's still not the same.

 

[King Weber]

 

[Scoresberg]

You cannot NOT be giddy about Askarov when you look at Vasilevsky and what he’s accomplished early in his NHL career.

We’re talking about pretty similar players who are on a similar career trajectories.

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[Legwand Legacy]

Cannot wait for this kid. Hate that hyped goalie prospects are usually the most exciting to watch out for but take the longest to cook

 

[Flgatorguy87]

Poile went out of his way to mention him as a guy in their plans, basically looking for a bridge backup because they think Askarov is ready to give minutes in 2 seasons. He mentioned 1 season in Russia and then one in Milwaukee.

 

[nine_inch_fang]

Poile went out of his way to mention him as a guy in their plans, basically looking for a bridge backup because they think Askarov is ready to give minutes in 2 seasons. He mentioned 1 season in Russia and then one in Milwaukee.

Nolan said he expected two more seasons in Russia then come over. One of them will be right and it probably all depends on his performance this year. Poile sounds more optimistic than Nolan.

 

[Gnashville]

Poile went out of his way to mention him as a guy in their plans, basically looking for a bridge backup because they think Askarov is ready to give minutes in 2 seasons. He mentioned 1 season in Russia and then one in Milwaukee.

I would rather wait 5 years myself. Goalies take a while 2 more in the KHL and 3 in the AHL (with a few call ups). Pekka didn’t play in the NHL full time until he was 26!!

 

[PredsV82]

I would rather wait 5 years myself. Goalies take a while 2 more in the KHL and 3 in the AHL (with a few call ups). Pekka didn’t play in the NHL full time until he was 26!!

Pekka was also drafted as a 20 year old and then missed a season due to his assault. Vasilevsky became TB starter at age 23. That's 5 years after his draft year. I think that's a pretty reasonable template to expect from Askarov. I seriously doubt he will need 3 years in the AHL to get used to the North American game

 

[nine_inch_fang]

I would rather wait 5 years myself. Goalies take a while 2 more in the KHL and 3 in the AHL (with a few call ups). Pekka didn’t play in the NHL full time until he was 26!!

Pekka was a 7th round pick only delayed because of his shoulder injury and that wasn't hockey related.
If Askarov isn't ready 4 years after his draft that first round pick is looking bad.

 

[Gnashville]

Pekka was also drafted as a 20 year old and then missed a season due to his assault. Vasilevsky became TB starter at age 23. That's 5 years after his draft year. I think that's a pretty reasonable template to expect from Askarov. I seriously doubt he will need 3 years in the AHL to get used to the North American game

Which would be right in my timeline. I added an extra year just for better development given he is a right handed catching Goaltender. Plus this franchise has a poor history with 1st rounders and it would help to not rush someone.

 

[Legionnaire11]

If I've learned anything from watching decades of sports, it's that despite the cliche sayings, you can never put hard and fast rules on an individual's development. Sure you use all of the data from past players as guidance and to set some expectations, but each player comes along at a different pace. I wouldn't be surprised if Askarov is indeed NHL ready in two years, but I also wouldn't be surprised if he isn't here until age 24 or 25.

 

[PredsV82]

Which would be right in my timeline. I added an extra year just for better development given he is a right handed catching Goaltender. Plus this franchise has a poor history with 1st rounders and it would help to not rush someone.

I thought you were saying 5 years from now. I think he could be ready in 3 of all goes well

 

[jumb0]

I thought you were saying 5 years from now. I think he could be ready in 3 of all goes well

No reason he couldn't be. Spencer Knight looked pretty damn good in his appearances this year and he's only 2 years out.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

I mean, you could probably throw Askarov into the NHL next season and he wouldn't be completely horrific. Probably. Maybe. But... why take the chance if you don't have to? Sure, some goalies hit the NHL at 20 or D+2 years and can handle it. Not often, but not impossible. I don't see any reason to set my expectations based on those outliers, though. Saros just killed it last season, and it's not hard to find a backup on the UFA market. There's really no reason for us to try to rush Askarov.

 

[Gnashville]

I thought you were saying 5 years from now. I think he could be ready in 3 of all goes well

At least
5 years is fine with me 23 or 24 is usually the rookie year for a Goalie. MA Fluery didn’t start regularly until he was 23. Carter Hart started at 20 do you think the Flyers would have been better off waiting?
I do not understand the rush to get this kid to play? He comes over at 20 plays in Milwaukee for a couple of years and becomes a dominant goalie in the NHL or he is rushed into service at 20 and falls flat never regains his confidence and is a bust at 25.

 

[herzausstein]

I thought you were saying 5 years from now. I think he could be ready in 3 of all goes well

This last season was Saros' 5th NHL season. Puts him as NHL backup at age 21. I can really see a similar path for Askarov. 2 more years in the KHL (or perhaps 1 if he tears it up) then over to the US and a quick transition into the NHL as a backup. There's no reason to doubt his ability.

 

[Flgatorguy87]

It took Vasy a few years to get going even after he got in the league. He wasn't doing poorly those first couple, but he has continued with his trajectory and even now I am not sure he's hit his ceiling.

 

[herzausstein]

At least
5 years is fine with me 23 or 24 is usually the rookie year for a Goalie. MA Fluery didn’t start regularly until he was 23. Carter Hart started at 20 do you think the Flyers would have been better off waiting?
I do not understand the rush to get this kid to play? He comes over at 20 plays in Milwaukee for a couple of years and becomes a dominant goalie in the NHL or he is rushed into service at 20 and falls flat never regains his confidence and is a bust at 25.

He'd be better off getting NHL games as a backup to Saros vs dominating the AHL. Get better quality competition. Saros only played 62 AHL games over 3 seasons (38, 15, 9) over those three seasons he played 48 NHL games (1, 21, 26). I'd expect them to do the same with Askarov if he proves up to it.

 

[Byrddog]

He'd be better off getting NHL games as a backup to Saros vs dominating the AHL. Get better quality competition. Saros only played 62 AHL games over 3 seasons (38, 15, 9) over those three seasons he played 48 NHL games (1, 21, 26). I'd expect them to do the same with Askarov if he proves up to it.

And those 110 games in 3 years are exactly the reason we have no idea if he can be a full time starter.