Friedman: Yandle not asked to waive NMC. Buyout or trade incoming?

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

It doesn't matter? Seattle taking on that contract voluntarily is incredibly unlikely.

Of course it's unlikely, but there is literally zero benefit to not at least exposing him. Any additional player to expose is a benefit to the team so that they can protect someone else, isnt it?

 

[Gecklund]

Is there really a third D that would be such a huge loss? I mean maybe Forsling, Nutivaara? Neither are huge losses in my opinion. Obviously you’d rather lose Yandle over them but do you really pay to trade him?

 

[FinlandPanther]

Is there really a third D that would be such a huge loss? I mean maybe Forsling, Nutivaara? Neither are huge losses in my opinion. Obviously you’d rather lose Yandle over them but do you really pay to trade him?

Forsling was an absolute stud for the Panthers last season so yes if we lose him, it’s going to be horrible.

 

[GKJ]

There’s probably a side deal with Seattle coming.

 

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

Is there really a third D that would be such a huge loss? I mean maybe Forsling, Nutivaara? Neither are huge losses in my opinion. Obviously you’d rather lose Yandle over them but do you really pay to trade him?

Forsling was fantastic last year. Like out of nowhere. It would be a huge blow. Nutivaara is bad.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

There’s probably a side deal with Seattle coming.

Now this would make more sense.

 

[Gecklund]

Forsling was an absolute stud for the Panthers last season so yes if we lose him, it’s going to be horrible.

Forsling was fantastic last year. Like out of nowhere. It would be a huge blow. Nutivaara is bad.

Yeah I knew Forsling was really good but so was Jacob Middleton for the Sharks a few years ago. He basically allowed Burns to play at a Norris level. In my opinion yes you want to protect Forsling over Yandle and I think asking him to waive or buying him out is the correct decision. It’s more just the paying to trade him.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Of course it's unlikely, but there is literally zero benefit to not at least exposing him. Any additional player to expose is a benefit to the team so that they can protect someone else, isnt it?

No. If he's not getting protected and he's not getting selected, he's irrelevant to the process. Florida has Nutivaara to meet the 27/54 threshold for a signed defenseman.

 

[Clint]

He quickly became a scapegoat for fans. At first, his production made up for clear defensive lapses. The flack he caught was generally unwarranted for a couple years.

This past season, he was legit awful. His skating has declined quite a bit, his play in our zone is getting worse and he hasn't thrown a hit in years to avoid injury and keep his iron man streak alive.

He isn't even good on the powerplay anymore. I'm sure he's a fine person, but his time as a Panther should be over.

I will back this opinion 100%. I was one of the final members on the Panther's board to defend Yandle and argue that his offensive production made up for hist lapses in judgement defensively.

But this past season was the straw that broke the camel's back. He only brought utility as a powerplay specialist but at this point but he's been surpassed by guys like Weegar and Ekblad, who are far more reliable defensively. It finally got to the point where even I couldn't defend his lapses and seen through the lens of a difficult cap situation over the next few years it would be difficult to justify hanging on to him.

I'm sure he could still bring value to some franchise out there who could shelter him almost exclusively powerplay minutes on a cheap contract. The issue is that the Panthers are no longer that franchise.

 

[rt]

Is your opinion of Ekman Larsson really that low?

Not at all. OEL is a very good defenseman. Arizona is not going to be competitive for several years. Yandle will we a UFA by the time Arizona is ready to spend and be competitive. Meanwhile, Florida is ready to compete now.

This is strictly about timing. OEL is a much more appropriate asset for Florida. Meanwhile, Yandle can play out his last couple of years in Arizona where it al started out and ride off into the sunset.

Should Florida add an asset in payment for the huge upgrade they’ll get the next couple of years? I don’t know. I guess that depends on how you feel about the last few years of the OEL deal.

 

[Hodge]

Can't they just go 4-4-1 and protect Barkov, Huberdeau, Bennett, Verhaege, Ekblad, Weegar, Yandle, Forsling and Bobrovsky? Or is Vatrano that important?

 

[cwede]

Was the buyout deadline yesterday?

These are the near-term dates:
July 13: Deadline for clubs to ask a player to waive his no-move clause for expansion draft.
24 hours after the conclusion of the Stanley Cup final: First buyout period begins.
July 16: Last day for teams to place a player on waivers prior to the expansion draft trade/waiver freeze (noon ET).
July 16: Deadline for players to agree to waive their no-move clause for the expansion draft.
July 17 at 3 p.m ET to July 22 at 1 pm ET: Trade freeze amongst the 31 NHL clubs. Seattle is allowed to make trades with any club during this time.
July 17: At 5pmET, firm deadline for each club to submit its expansion draft protection list
July 18-21 Opening of the RFA/UFA interview period Kraken have an exclusive window from July 18 at 10amET to July 21 at 10amET to speak with, and potentially sign any RFAs or UFAs left unprotected for the expansion draft by the 30 NHL club
July 21: There’s a 10amET deadline for Seattle to submit its expansion draft selections to Central Registry and the NHLPA. Also, a 10amET deadline for the Kraken to submit contracts for any of those pending RFAs/UFAs they’ve been able to sign during the interview period.
The NHL announces the expansion draft results at 8pmET.

 

[kerrabria]

Can't they just go 4-4-1 and protect Barkov, Huberdeau, Bennett, Verhaege, Ekblad, Weegar, Yandle, Forsling and Bobrovsky? Or is Vatrano that important?

We would lose Duclair or Hornqvist, not Vatrano.
Hornqvist is that important, and Duclair isn't somebody you're okay with for losing for nothing. He's a proven top 6 winger and RFA.

 

[Laus723]

Not at all. OEL is a very good defenseman. Arizona is not going to be competitive for several years. Yandle will we a UFA by the time Arizona is ready to spend and be competitive. Meanwhile, Florida is ready to compete now.

This is strictly about timing. OEL is a much more appropriate asset for Florida. Meanwhile, Yandle can play out his last couple of years in Arizona where it al started out and ride off into the sunset.

Should Florida add an asset in payment for the huge upgrade they’ll get the next couple of years? I don’t know. I guess that depends on how you feel about the last few years of the OEL deal.

Didn’t OEL really struggle last year? Or was that more due to the team and not him?

I will back this opinion 100%. I was one of the final members on the Panther's board to defend Yandle and argue that his offensive production made up for hist lapses in judgement defensively.

But this past season was the straw that broke the camel's back. He only brought utility as a powerplay specialist but at this point but he's been surpassed by guys like Weegar and Ekblad, who are far more reliable defensively. It finally got to the point where even I couldn't defend his lapses and seen through the lens of a difficult cap situation over the next few years it would be difficult to justify hanging on to him.

I'm sure he could still bring value to some franchise out there who could shelter him almost exclusively powerplay minutes on a cheap contract. The issue is that the Panthers are no longer that franchise.

ello Clint. I completely agree with this. I defended him due to his offensive output, but his play throughout the year and even more so in the playoffs just made it impossible. Not sure if he’s THAT concerned with his “iron man” (lol) streak or if he’s just regressed.

 

[rt]

Didn’t OEL really struggle last year? Or was that more due to the team and not him?



ello Clint. I completely agree with this. I defended him due to his offensive output, but his play throughout the year and even more so in the playoffs just made it impossible. Not sure if he’s THAT concerned with his “iron man” (lol) streak or if he’s just regressed.

OEL hasn't looked like to 20+ goal scoring Top5 and Top7 in Norris voting player he was before Tocchet was hired. But he's still very good. Think end-stage Jay Bouwmeester.

 

[Dr Beinfest]

The way Yandle seems to be hated by Fla management and fans and media is lol

I love him. He’s just got nothing left in the tank.

 

[SML2]

The NHL needs to step into these buyouts. I envision Seattle signing Suter, Yandle, and another handful of these buyout vets for close to minimum and then raffling them off to contenders at the deadline for 1st rounders.

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

Duclair isn't somebody you're okay with for losing for nothing. He's a proven top 6 winger

Played 4th line minutes in the playoffs so he's not a top6er on Q's notepad.

 

[FinlandPanther]

The NHL needs to step into these buyouts. I envision Seattle signing Suter, Yandle, and another handful of these buyout vets for close to minimum and then raffling them off to contenders at the deadline for 1st rounders.

Yandle isn’t getting you a first rounder lmao. This isn’t 2012.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Was the buyout deadline yesterday?

I believe Friday for players with a NMC, But i could be wrong.

 

[kerrabria]

Played 4th line minutes in the playoffs so he's not a top6er on Q's notepad.

Just because Q liked Marchment on the top line doesn't mean it's acceptable to giveaway a player with as many tools as Duclair.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Yandle for OEL.

Very doubtful Florida can afford OEL long term, They've big contracts coming up with Barkov and Huberdeau.

 

[DFF]

Buyout, who would want him?

 

[SML2]

Yandle isn’t getting you a first rounder lmao. This isn’t 2012.

I'm kinda kidding. Is this the part where I say Paul Gaustad brought back a first or am I supposed to wait?

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Buyout, who would want him?

No one, he's a shell of his former self.

 

[VijayPatel11]

Future Florida Panther Philip "The Thrill" Joseph Kessel Jr. incoming