Boston Bruins XI-Rumors, Trade Proposals, Speculation, etc.. (rumors must have recognized source/link)

[Gee Wally]

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[burstnbloom]

I mean its probably fair to look at 5v5 right? Numbers can get skewed by guys who play on the PP and not the PK or vice versa. Personally like 3yrs of data myself as it gives a more accurate picture of now vs a whole career. Based on that and looking at the rel numbers, Wood since 2018

Player	CF% Rel	SF% Rel	GF% Rel	xGF% Rel	SCF% Rel	HDCF% Rel
Miles Wood	-1.1	0.04	-6.35	-1.7	-3.27	-0.41

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Obviously 0.0 would be neutral (team isn't better or worse with Wood on the ice) when looking at Rel's.

Biggest concern's are obviously the GF% Rel and SCF% Rel. Oddly enough his xGF% is significantly lower than his actual GF% Rel. The rest of them are close enough to neutral that it doesn't concern me. I'm sure it doesn't help his numbers that he's a guy that likes to fly the zone (and NJD asks him to do it as well), which can lead to problems obviously and would kill his GF% Rel.

Not sure I can completely agree with you on his linemates being better away from Wood. Again Rel numbers at 5v5 this year, this is his top 3 linemates in TOI

	CF% Rel Without Wood	FF% Rel Without Wood	SF% Rel Without Wood	GF% Rel Without Wood	xGF% Rel Without Wood	SCF% Rel Without Wood	HDCF% Rel Without Wood
Michael McLeod	-7.36	-4.99	-4.47	-6.81	-5.45	-6.82	-14.91
Nathan Bastian	9.29	10.52	10.08	10.51	7.86	5.67	-1.26
Travis Zajac	-1.01	-2.14	-4.35	16.01	-1.06	-1.62	0.9

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Looks like McLeod is worse, Bastian is better and Zajac for the most part is slightly worse.

Wood plays an up-tempo game with a high risk high reward style. Our problem isn't stopping teams from scoring, its actually scoring ourselves. I think he'd be a quality 3rd liner next to Coyle on this team.

All of the numbers and really statements more than anything I made were based on 5v5 stats and the data you're presenting here backs up everything I've said. 3 years vs whole career is a viable argument but we're talking about tacking on an additional 136 games, not 8 years, and there isn't much statistical change in his early numbers to his more recent numbers.

This is last year:

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The team was significantly worse when he was on the ice. It's double the sample size of this season and is where I got the info that made me make that statement. Now looking a bit deeper it seems like its a bit more neutral over the longer span of his 300 game career but always pretty bad.

The larger point here is that Miles Wood isn't actually any good.

 

[Sheppy]

I absolutely can't stand when people use all of those fancy stat numbers. Maybe it's because I don't really get it, but I'm 95% sure it's because I don't care.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

I absolutely can't stand when people use all of those fancy stat numbers. Maybe it's because I don't really get it, but I'm 95% sure it's because I don't care.

yeah i know what you mean, i hate knowing things too

 

[Sheppy]

I don't care where player A's defensive stick was last night during dinner, and i definitely don't give a bakers f*** about quality shots during breakfast.

 

[JCRO]

Krejcis new RW coming in hot

 

[Greek_physique]

Krejcis new RW coming in hot

So how does this work...I see that he has a Modified-No Trade Clause. Someone can still claim him because he doesnt have a NMC right?

 

[ON3M4N]

All of the numbers and really statements more than anything I made were based on 5v5 stats and the data you're presenting here backs up everything I've said. 3 years vs whole career is a viable argument but we're talking about tacking on an additional 136 games, not 8 years, and there isn't much statistical change in his early numbers to his more recent numbers.

This is last year:

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The team was significantly worse when he was on the ice. It's double the sample size of this season and is where I got the info that made me make that statement. Now looking a bit deeper it seems like its a bit more neutral over the longer span of his 300 game career but always pretty bad.

The larger point here is that Miles Wood isn't actually any good.

Not sure I'd say he isn't any good, but to each their own. As you said its a bit more neutral and we're not looking for him to carry this team or even a line. We just need him to come in and play the up-tempo speed game that he plays.

 

[DKH]

Krejcis new RW coming in hot

Nope

Krejci getting a LW

2011 Tyler Seguin SC

2021 Taylor Hall ???

10 years in the making

Who da thought ?

 

[The National]

So how does this work...I see that he has a Modified-No Trade Clause. Someone can still claim him because he doesnt have a NMC right?

Haha wondering that as well, does he choose who can claim him?

 

[ON3M4N]

I absolutely can't stand when people use all of those fancy stat numbers. Maybe it's because I don't really get it, but I'm 95% sure it's because I don't care.

I absolutely can't stand when people piss and moan about fancy stat numbers because they don't understand them and/or don't care too

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

Krejcis new RW coming in hot

More points than half our roster.

All these guys on waivers that have more points than half of our team. What's that say about our team? Points aren't everything, but....

Gusev's not the answer, but Sweeney's lack of anything is a little concerning.

11 days til deadline?

 

[MattFromFranklin]

I absolutely can't stand when people use all of those fancy stat numbers. Maybe it's because I don't really get it, but I'm 95% sure it's because I don't care.

There were some advanced stats that were thrown around over the summer that convinced some posters that it wouldn’t be a good deal for us to trade DeBrusk for Boeser, when we were talking about trade proposals with Vancouver. Edmonton fans also threw around advanced stats to convince themselves that some of their lesser D were better than Nurse.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

I don't care where player A's defensive stick was last night during dinner, and i definitely don't give a bakers f*** about quality shots during breakfast.

One of the best lessons I learned was that not everything in life was going to be interesting to me personally. Once I learned how to skip things that I didn't care for, I became a lot happier.

Anyhow, sorry to hear that these things' existence bothers you enough to whine about it. Better days ahead!

 

[Gee Wally]

Lets move on from pro stats - anti stats shall we?

 

[ON3M4N]

Krejcis new RW coming in hot

Amazing that VGK got a 2nd + 3rd for this kid.

 

[burstnbloom]

Not sure I'd say he isn't any good, but to each their own. As you said its a bit more neutral and we're not looking for him to carry this team or even a line. We just need him to come in and play the up-tempo speed game that he plays.

His team was -10% xG below average last year with him on the ice. That's bad. It's only -1% this year, which is still bad. He does play up tempo and with speed. The result has generally been bad for his team when he does that. He's not someone the bruins should seek to acquire.

 

[ON3M4N]

His team was -10% xG below average last year with him on the ice. That's bad. It's only -1% this year, which is still bad. He does play up tempo and with speed. The result has generally been bad for his team when he does that. He's not someone the bruins should seek to acquire.

Going to have to move on, don't want to upset folks with advanced stat talk anymore.

 

[Tbaybruin]

Well the eye test told us Wood is good. He was the best player on the ice last game. He scored and created tons of room for his team. He could of had 3-4 goals easily, although he’s not a goal scorer he can flat out fly.

 

[Blowfish]

Oh my are the flyers in trouble with the crazy contracts and faltering team. Perhaps trade for Gritty or Giroux?

But Giroux would be interesting. UFA 2022-2023 byt 8.25.

 

[The National]

Well the eye test told us Wood is good. He was the best player on the ice last game. He scored and created tons of room for his team. He could of had 3-4 goals easily, although he’s not a goal scorer he can flat out fly.

I’m sure there’s some advanced stat that shows him as a pig and everything our eye is seeing is untrue.

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

Oh my are the flyers in trouble with the crazy contracts and faltering team. Perhaps trade for Gritty or Giroux?

But Giroux would be interesting. UFA 2022-2023 byt 8.25.

Blades would like a word with you privately.

 

[Blowfish]

Blades would like a word with you privately.

Trade Blades for this guy...

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

Lets move on from pro stats - anti stats shall we?

ok

where do you guys stand on vaccines?

 

[Dr Hook]

Quite a lot of argument about Miles Wood. Miles friggin Wood. He wood be a good pickup if the Bruins could get him, but he's a third line guy. He isn't the main thing they need, but if it was on the back of getting a top 6 goal scorer, I wood like to see it