Would You Trade Antti Niemi?

[The Ice Hockey Dude]

... I don't want to spend big cap $$ for Miller or a simular NHL vet goalie. He may be over rated even know he's not a bad goalie and i just don't think that will work. I'd rather find the next J Quick goalie, get him on the upside so to speak. Stalock may be a top 5 NHL goalie, we won't know until we give him the chance.

 

[WantonAbandon]

It depends:

Let's say Doug Wilson sat him and his agent down and explained that the organization was committed to letting Alex Stalock play more games (highly likely) and possibly take over the starting job. In response Niemi's agent understandably says that is unacceptable (that could potentially lower his clients value, you have to play sixty games). Then you trade him... for a another goaltender or the Sharks need another goaltender before he is traded.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

It depends:

Let's say Doug Wilson sat him and his agent down and explained that the organization was committed to letting Alex Stalock play more games (highly likely) and possibly take over the starting job. In response Niemi's agent understandably says that is unacceptable (that could potentially lower his clients value, you have to play sixty games). Then you trade him... for a another goaltender or the Sharks need another goaltender before he is traded.

Niemi's agent saying it's unacceptable doesn't lower his trade value since he doesn't have a movement clause that we're aware of. But the reason why it's a solid asset management move is because getting a goalie in the free agent market is something they've had recent success with to the point that it is an option to pursue that doesn't cost them assets outside of cap dollars. Whether they're rebuilding or whether they're contending, it makes little difference. They can get a goalie in free agency to put up comparable to numbers to Niemi or to platoon with Stalock. So even if another team is only willing to pony up a 2nd round pick for him, they're better off doing it, re-signing Stalock and going out to get any number of guys that can do what Niemi did here.

 

[magic school bus]

There is no scenario where Niemi stays and plays less games.

 

[LeeIFBB]

Yes, with no Stalock/FA qualifiers. Anything goes.

 

[Coily]

There is no scenario where Niemi stays and plays less games.

Even if he was hurt?

 

[DarrylshutzSydor]

Stalock is waay overrated around here.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Stalock is waay overrated around here.

I think most are expecting a platoon type of setup for next year. I don't think that's overrating Stalock.

 

[TeamTeal8]

Would you like this Goalie tandem?

I'm in the camp the Sharks should trade Niemi. I think he's lost the form that helped him lead the Hawks to a cup. Saying that however, I think he still has enough value to land us a pretty good defenseman or winger.

So my idea would be to re-sign Stalock to a 3-year deal and sign Marty Brodeur to a 1-year deal with Stalock getting the majority of the play-time. What better backup goalie for Stalock to grow from than a sure HOFer?!

Your thoughts?

 

[JayP812]

No way. Brodeur is trash right now. Retire please.

 

[Juxtaposer]

If you want to tank, I recommend a Brodeur-Grosenick tandem.

 

[Coy]

Brodeur is terrible.

 

[19sharks19]

If we are entering a re-build and start moving bodies out, I don't even think Brodeur would consider us in the first place.

 

[Juxtaposer]

If we are entering a re-build and start moving bodies out, I don't even think Brodeur would consider us in the first place.

If we signed Brodeur before trading Marleau and Thornton, we could trick him. (He'd deserve it)

 

[rangerssharks414]

Brodeur is pretty bad nowadays. No thanks.

 

[19sharks19]

If we signed Brodeur before trading Marleau and Thornton, we could trick him. (He'd deserve it)

 

[weastern bias]

No one would like that tandem

 

[PacificOceanPotion]

I'd do it, he's probably got a little left in the tank (no pun intended) with something to prove

 

[deekortiz3]

Stalock
Montoya

 

[Rickety Cricket]

Stalock
Montoya

If they can't get Reimer I'd be fine with this.

 

[Evincar]

I'm in the camp the Sharks should trade Niemi. I think he's lost the form that helped him lead the Hawks to a cup. Saying that however, I think he still has enough value to land us a pretty good defenseman or winger.

So my idea would be to re-sign Stalock to a 3-year deal and sign Marty Brodeur to a 1-year deal with Stalock getting the majority of the play-time. What better backup goalie for Stalock to grow from than a sure HOFer?!

Your thoughts?

I think Brodeur wants playing time. He doesnt want to mentor a goalie.

 

[Dicdonya]

I like the idea of it, since they play the same way roughly. He might be willing to come here if we really do allow the position to be a competition.

However even though the idea sounds nice, not sure he will be good enough if sat lock falters , leaving us really weak in net.

In short. I wouldn't be upset if it happened.

 

[DonskoiDonscored]

Sure. I'm down for tanking a season to get McJesus.

 

[HOOCH2173]

Stalock
Montoya

 

[sharski]

Would rather keep niemi for 1 more year and lose him for nothing than sign brodeur at any cost