Proposal: Would any team take the Lucic contract for multiple picks?

[scotchtapejr]

Lets say Oilers were able to get

2nd for Chiasson
2nd for Kassian
3rd for Talbot
3rd for Petrovic
4th for Brodziak
4th for Gravel

Would you/any team take 6 draft picks to take on Lucics contract with no retention?

More? Less?

At what point does stacking a draft in a teams favor and increasing the odds of drafting stars worth taking on a bad contract of that magnitude?

Please be kind/gentle to me. This is my first thread here. Your responses couls crush me.

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[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

No. Those players likely won't return that. Kassian and Petrovic mainly.

Even if all those players did, you're looking at late picks in all those rounds. Not worth it for anyone.

 

[izzy]

no to the deals for those players and no to taking on lucics contract for those picks

 

[Bristo]

Paging John Chayka...

 

[Qward]

Ottawa would

 

[DeagleJenkins]

ill take on his contract if you include LD with him.

 

[ole ole]

Lets say Oilers were able to get

2nd for Chiasson
2nd for Kassian
3rd for Talbot
3rd for Petrovic
4th for Brodziak
4th for Gravel

Would you/any team take 6 draft picks to take on Lucics contract with no retention?

More? Less?

At what point does stacking a draft in a teams favor and increasing the odds of drafting stars worth taking on a bad contract of that magnitude?

Please be kind/gentle to me. This is my first thread here. Your responses couls crush me.

Only if the Oilers retain 50%

 

[scotchtapejr]

No. Those players likely won't return that. Kassian and Petrovic mainly.

Even if all those players did, you're looking at late picks in all those rounds. Not worth it for anyone.

Im pretty sure the Oilers could get a 2nd for Kassian with some retention, especially from a smaller team worried about Winnipeg, Boston, or even VGK/Reeves.

Same with Petrovic.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Nobody on this list is worth more than a 3rd.

 

[scotchtapejr]

Nobody on this list is worth more than a 3rd.

Did you think Brian Boyle was going to fetch a second? Because i didnt.

 

[AndreRoy]

Nobody’s taking on Lucic’s contract without either an incentive that will hurt to give up or a cap dump that’s almost as bad coming back your way.

 

[scotchtapejr]

Ottawa would

I would do it if I had cap space or if i was in a rebuild.

Its essentially acquiring an entire draft. It would build up your prospect pool pretty significantly.

 

[OVO16]

The Sens

 

[xtra]

Lets say Oilers were able to get

2nd for Chiasson
2nd for Kassian
3rd for Talbot
3rd for Petrovic
4th for Brodziak
4th for Gravel

Would you/any team take 6 draft picks to take on Lucics contract with no retention?

More? Less?

At what point does stacking a draft in a teams favor and increasing the odds of drafting stars worth taking on a bad contract of that magnitude?

Please be kind/gentle to me. This is my first thread here. Your responses couls crush me.

If you could give up that and a first you might get a competent gm to do it. Or just call Benning.

 

[TrufleShufle]

Did you think Brian Boyle was going to fetch a second? Because i didnt.

A lot of people did.

 

[Sparksrus3]

What part of NMC until June of 2021 is not clear ?

 

[McSuper]

Lets say Oilers were able to get

2nd for Chiasson
2nd for Kassian
3rd for Talbot
3rd for Petrovic
4th for Brodziak
4th for Gravel

Would you/any team take 6 draft picks to take on Lucics contract with no retention?

More? Less?

At what point does stacking a draft in a teams favor and increasing the odds of drafting stars worth taking on a bad contract of that magnitude?

Please be kind/gentle to me. This is my first thread here. Your responses couls crush me.

Sorry but most of those returns are a dream .

 

[Michoulicious]

Lets say Oilers were able to get

2nd for Chiasson
2nd for Kassian
3rd for Talbot
3rd for Petrovic
4th for Brodziak
4th for Gravel

Would you/any team take 6 draft picks to take on Lucics contract with no retention?

More? Less?

At what point does stacking a draft in a teams favor and increasing the odds of drafting stars worth taking on a bad contract of that magnitude?

Please be kind/gentle to me. This is my first thread here. Your responses couls crush me.

In what universe Kassian gets a 2nd round pick... or any of those players get what is suggested? Anyways, all those picks added together amount to around a mid 1st round pick, and I doubt any team takes Lucic for a mid first round pick .

 

[scotchtapejr]

What part of NMC until June of 2021 is not clear ?

It was believed he asked for a trade last summer.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Did you think Brian Boyle was going to fetch a second? Because i didnt.

Brian Boyle is a center. Its not the first time a good 4th line C that can play up has gotten a 2nd at the deadline. Its also not the first time a rental Brian Boyle has returned a 2nd.

I'm honestly shocked that you wouldn't predict it. But I note that none of those guys on your list are a two-way center that scores.

 

[780il]

Your player valuations in OP are off imo:

Chiasson: late 2nd or a 3rd
Talbot: 3rd
Kassian : 4th/5th
Petrovic: 4th/5th
Brodziak: won't be moved probably
Gravel: 3rd/4th

No, no one would take Lucic for a bunch of 3rd/4th/5th rounders.

Personally, I'd be willing to give someone Pulju + 2nd + another pick (3rd or 4th) to take on Lucic and except a small 1 or 2 year dump in return. For example, Lucic + Puljujarvi + 2nd + 3rd for Panik.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Nobody is going to take that contract for those kinds of picks no matter the quantity. Now if you retain 50% then you'll probably get some takers since 3 mil for those picks at least seems more realistic for the situation but the odds of even that happening are still next to zero. I think Edmonton will have to hold on to him and hope that a compliance buyout is part of the next CBA.

 

[scotchtapejr]

In what universe Kassian gets a 2nd round pick... or any of those players get what is suggested? Anyways, all those picks added together amount to around a mid 1st round pick, and I doubt any team takes Lucic for a mid first round pick .

2 2nds and a 3rd would probably get you a mid round first. Between 18-24 is pretty likely imo. Especially in a weak 2019 draft class. Teams would appreciate more bullets.

I believe any team dreading facing Ryan Reeves in the first round would be willing to pay a premium for Kassian, with retention of course.

I believe any team facing Winnipeg would/should consider it.

Ive seen how he can affect a series in the playoffs.

I believe he can get a 3rd as is, a 2nd with 50% retention.

I believe Petrovic gets a 3rd from someone like Pittsburgh, also with 50% retention.

Thinking about it now, if I were Ottawa or Arizona. Id take the trade and then retain 50% in another trade for more picks. Even a third.

 

[YotesFan47]

Paging John Chayka...

Shhhh, he might actually catch wind of this.

In all seriousness, I don't think we could afford to take him on and even attempt to be competitive. Maybe if there was 50% retention and we got to send a "dump" of our own back with a shorter contract we could find a way to make it work but there is really no incentive for the Coyotes to do that. We would need to be chasing one of your bigger names where Lucic @50% was the add to make the deal happen and you guys got actual value back in return, not just cap savings.

 

[cwede]

offer NYR Lucic, with Bear, Maksimov, Kesslring, and 2d'20
and take back Smith with retention and 2/3 D and F prospects or young players(not top 4 D or top 4 F prospects)

dammm that Lucic deal is endless (4 more x$6M)
but by offering NYR a bit of Cap balance, and prospects that meet need, you might find common ground