Worst goalie equipment offender?

[buttman*]

Obligatory "that's not the equipment he wears during games."

Not anymore.

 

[buttman*]

garth snow's leg pads were basically matresses

As were his shoulder pads.

 

[wgknestrick]

Garth Snow was the original offender of this IMO. This is like the NFL and PEDs. It's an all out arms race when there is no real regulation.

 

[Moorpheus*]

garth snow's leg pads were basically matresses

They were in the 42-44 range iirc one of my 5'10 friends played in them

 

[Bleedred]

Why no mention of Mike Smith yet? His jersey size alone looks fitted for the Yokozuna.

 

[ps241]

When you are being paid $8.5 million a year, you better have good hair!

Ovi says hello.

 

[Claypool]

Roman Cechmanek had surf boards attached to his legs for pads.

 

[BogsDiamond]

With the implementation of carbon materials(very strong and very light in weight) in goalie equipment, there is no reason for the Chesty and Pants to not be form fitted to the goalie.

Exactly.
This is needed to stop a bullet:

But this is needed to stop frozen rubber?

Yup. It's all about safety and has nothing to do with blocking the net.

 

[molon labe]

Exactly.
This is needed to stop a bullet:

But this is needed to stop frozen rubber?

Yup. It's all about safety and has nothing to do with blocking the net.

+1 for Miller, Murray, and Vasi. All three look like they've been fasting since birth yet are monsters on the ice. Though I've yet to notice a goalie around the league with a legit 48" chest... I honestly believe that smaller pads will be the only necessary change. If changes get ridiculous and scoring gets crazy - I think a nice balance would be an extended 'crease' area of sorts that would work similary to the 'paint' in basketball - a short 2-5 second window where players are allowed to obscure the goalie instead of camping out all day.

 

[McDrailers]

It's obviously Jimmy Howard

Technically it doesn't matter how big his pads are on the bench.

 

[deckercky]

If changes get ridiculous and scoring gets crazy

We almost certainly don't have to worry about the changes bringing scoring to a 'crazy' level.

 

[Rich Nixon]

Exactly.
This is needed to stop a bullet:

But this is needed to stop frozen rubber?

Yup. It's all about safety and has nothing to do with blocking the net.

Well a bulletproof vest will stop a very small object from penetrating your flesh and shredding your insides. I don't think anyone's worried about a hockey puck doing that. If you wore a bulletproof vest and tried to stop a slapshot, you'd break ribs.

 

[Mpasta]

a shorter list may be those who dont

Being a homer, I feel like Tuukka Rask doesn't wear anything too crazy. He also might look skinny in net because he weights 90 lbs.

 

[McDrailers]

Hutchinson isn't that bad. Chest pad is smaller and the thigh rise is somewhat respectable

 

[ChuckLefley]

The pants are another issue. They wear huge pants that are held up by suspenders and have to be pulled up every stoppage in play.

 

[molon labe]

Well a bulletproof vest will stop a very small object from penetrating your flesh and shredding your insides. I don't think anyone's worried about a hockey puck doing that. If you wore a bulletproof vest and tried to stop a slapshot, you'd break ribs.

I thought about that after +1'ing that post. A better example are the military and LE sleeves worn to train GSD's, Belgian Malinois, and Rotties. I'll take a slap-shot all day over those forces. There are some massive suits out there, but the majority of the training facilities use pretty streamline suits that the 'crook' can run around in. If THOSE are smaller than goalie pads....

I agree about scoring not getting crazy was just making an effort to include that random idea Though if you look at some games from the Stars and Pens last year, it makes you wonder how much scoring the league actually wants. I like 4-2 / 5-3 outcomes and I'm from the gray area of switching to hockey full-time whilst leaving a high scoring sport (NBA). I've followed hockey my entire life but it became my only sport a few seasons ago and I've wondered how people can really compare this to the 'dead puck' time-frame. Goalies padding is certainly a factor but the clutch and grabbing by 'elite' defenses like you would see with the Sharks and Tampa Bay are also big factors to low scoring games. While hooking and grabbing was worse in the past - the goalies were mostly awful in comparison (your stand outs were STAND OUTS) and used wee-pads.

 

[Master P]

Goalie equipment is fine imo, but if they want to shrink it then the players should go back to using wood sticks.
If the NHL really wants to increase scoring I think they should enforce the icing rule for teams on the penalty kill.

Even with Pekka Rinne, there is plenty of net to shoot at.

 

[McDrailers]

Goalie equipment is fine imo, but if they want to shrink it then the players should go back to using wood sticks.
If the NHL really wants to increase scoring I think they should enforce the icing rule for teams on the penalty kill.

Even with Pekka Rinne, there is plenty of net to shoot at.

Good arguement. But Rinne is one of the biggest offenders of the thigh rise. Dude has so much access padding

 

[Master P]

Good arguement. But Rinne is one of the biggest offenders of the thigh rise. Dude has so much access padding

But thats just it. Even with someone as big as Rinne there is still plenty of net. Goalie equipment will never go back to the way it was in the 70's but they could round out the chest protectors and maybe streamline the pants a bit and I think that would be enough.

 

[Finnish your Czech]

Goalie equipment is fine imo, but if they want to shrink it then the players should go back to using wood sticks.
If the NHL really wants to increase scoring I think they should enforce the icing rule for teams on the penalty kill.

Even with Pekka Rinne, there is plenty of net to shoot at.

You basically chose a photo where the goalie scrunched as close together as possible to prove that there is a lot of space. It's not like goalies are always in that position .

 

[tarheelhockey]

I thought about that after +1'ing that post. A better example are the military and LE sleeves worn to train GSD's, Belgian Malinois, and Rotties. I'll take a slap-shot all day over those forces. There are some massive suits out there, but the majority of the training facilities use pretty streamline suits that the 'crook' can run around in. If THOSE are smaller than goalie pads....

It's just different. Military equipment is (generally) designed to save your life one time, then be replaced. If it only leaves you with a bruise and 10 seconds of pain, then it did a fantastic job. Goalie gear to be capable of stopping thousands of shots without causing ANY significant pain or injury. If the 1000th slapshot causes a goalie to stagger backward and be temporarily blinded by intense pain, then his pads aren't getting the job done.

 

[kunekune]

It's ridicilious that some people here compare goalie equipments to military equipments when they serve a way different purpose.

 

[McDrailers]

But thats just it. Even with someone as big as Rinne there is still plenty of net. Goalie equipment will never go back to the way it was in the 70's but they could round out the chest protectors and maybe streamline the pants a bit and I think that would be enough.

As a goaltender myself I'd be all for making things smaller as long as the safety is there. I for one wouldn't want to be facing shots like that with equipment I don't trust. God knows getting a stinger now with the over padded stuff still hurts like a *****.

Gotta wonder too how long it'll take goalies to adapt mentally. I know going back to my old gear I found it challenging. 36' to 34'

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

Exactly.
This is needed to stop a bullet:

But this is needed to stop frozen rubber?

Yup. It's all about safety and has nothing to do with blocking the net.

Have you ever played goal before? As bulky as these chest protectors look it still hurts sometimes getting hit by 85+ mph shots. I agree that some goalies are trying to cheat but padding is necesaary. I get stingers to the ribs, forearms and around the top of the arm/ shoulders all the time.

Plus bullet proof vests are to stop the bullet from killing you but it doesn't mean it won't still break a rib or hurt

 

[molon labe]

It's just different. Military equipment is (generally) designed to save your life one time, then be replaced. If it only leaves you with a bruise and 10 seconds of pain, then it did a fantastic job. Goalie gear to be capable of stopping thousands of shots without causing ANY significant pain or injury. If the 1000th slapshot causes a goalie to stagger backward and be temporarily blinded by intense pain, then his pads aren't getting the job done.

At first I was ready to rebut - but I get your point on the thousandth shot argument. Overall, the size I'm referring to being ridiculous are the chest and shoulders. The leg pads are extended far beyond any protection point on the person and even that is not a huge deal in comparison.

It's ridicilious that some people here compare goalie equipments to military equipments when they serve a way different purpose.

It's not ridiculous at all if you look at the actual comparison being done. To save the trouble I'll break it down - a bite suit that is used over and over again to protect a K9 trainer from sustaining injury is often times more modern and smaller than hockey goalie equipment. The point it was brought up to counter was the single bullet argument.