GWT: World Cup - Semifinals - France v. Morocco

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Germany:
82 Final
86 Final
90 Winner
94 QF
98 QF
02 Final
06 Semifinal
10 Semifinal
14 Winner
18 Group Stage
22 Group Stage

Qualified every time. 2 group stage exits are worst results. At least semifinal in 7 out of 11 and 5 Finals. A bit better than France in that particular time span. Obviously fair to say that in the last 25 years France has been better as all their WC wins come from that time span.

Agree with this assessment. France's misses in '90 and '94 really hurt them

 

[Dr Pepper]

Voting for the sheer madness that would be a Morocco win.

What a story that'd be, they're already legends for making it this far.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

At his peak, he was probably a top five GK, and his position as captain of those teams boosts him above a Chris Osgood type.

Luongo?

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Luongo?

Too high lol

Luongo def peaked higher than Lloris. good comparator for Luongo is Courtois, IMO. Had moments of being the best keeper in the world, was consistently top 3 for a prolonged period.

 

[Savant]

 

[gary69]

Ref for the match will be Mexico's Cesar Ramos.

Match certainly has potential to get out of hand, although not to the extent what will certainly happen in some cities amongst the supporters.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

According to a TSN article, Aguerd and Mazraoui are headed towards being available for the game. Could be huge.

 

[Savant]

According to a TSN article, Aguerd and Mazraoui are headed towards being available for the game. Could be huge.

I want whatever they are having

 

[Spring in Fialta]

I want whatever they are having

?

 

[cgf]

Yeah, I'd say them and Brazil. Maybe Germany as well.

82 - 2nd place
86 - 2nd place
90 - Winners
94 - QF
98 - QF
02 - 2nd place
06 - 3rd place
10 - 3rd place
14 - Winners
18 - Group Stages
22 - Group Stages

The last two haven't gone according to plan lol...and France has certainly been better of late...but that's still 2 Golds, 3 Silvers, 2 Bronzes, and 2 QFs before that.


Edit:
Brazil's results

82 - 2nd Groupstage
86 - QF
90 - R16
94 - Winners
98 - 2nd place
02 - Winners
06 - QF
10 - QF
14 - 4th place
18 - QF
22 - QF

2 golds, 1 silver, 1 4th place finish, 5 QFs, no exits in the first group stage, and they always qualified for the tourney.

 

[Savant]

?

They are going to be on the good stuff if they are playing through the pain barrier

 

[cgf]

Too high lol

Luongo def peaked higher than Lloris. good comparator for Luongo is Courtois, IMO. Had moments of being the best keeper in the world, was consistently top 3 for a prolonged period.

Was he consistently top 3? Top 5 I think I could get behind, but consistently top 3 feels a little too high.

 

[jcs0218]

82 - 2nd place
86 - 2nd place
90 - Winners
94 - QF
98 - QF
02 - 2nd place
06 - 3rd place
10 - 3rd place
14 - Winners
18 - Group Stages
22 - Group Stages

The last two haven't gone according to plan lol...and France has certainly been better of late...but that's still 2 Golds, 3 Silvers, 2 Bronzes, and 2 QFs before that.

In regards to what is underlined and bolded....Adolf hasn't been too happy about the last 2 World Cup performances from Germany.

Here are his reactions to the last 2 World Cup performances from Germany, starting with 2022 and then 2018:

 

[cgf]

In regards to what is underlined and bolded....Adolf hasn't been too happy about the last 2 World Cup performances from Germany.

Here are his reactions to the last 2 World Cup performances from Germany, starting with 2022 and then 2018:

What an original and creative idea...

 

[Power Man]

Objectively speaking, I think France will win this one
Sucks that Saiss is injured, but it's part of sports

This WC has been full of surprisrs though so we never know

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Was he consistently top 3? Top 5 I think I could get behind, but consistently top 3 feels a little too high.

From 2012-2018, I'd say he was 2a/2b with De Gea behind Neuer. After a slow start at Real, he's top 3 again.

 

[cgf]

From 2012-2018, I'd say he was 2a/2b with De Gea behind Neuer. After a slow start at Real, he's top 3 again.

Ahead of ter Stegen & Courtois? I think MAtS was better than Neuer some of those years...especially in the latter part of that range...nevermind being better than the rest of the pack.

I always felt like Lloris was more in that 2 tier, with Sommer & Handanovic, a step down from the very best of the best...but maybe that's just because he didn't have that same aura of dominance that Neuer and MAtS had.


PS when did Buffon & Cech fall off? Were either of them still at the height of their powers in the early part of that range?

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Typical blueblood behavior. A thread about the first semi-final with an African team and what we get is whichever blueblood team is the most accomplished in the past decades. Some shameful shit.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Ahead of ter Stegen & Courtois? I think MAtS was better than Neuer some of those years...especially in the latter part of that range...nevermind being better than the rest of the pack.

I always felt like Lloris was more in that 2 tier, with Sommer & Handanovic, a step down from the very best of the best...but maybe that's just because he didn't have that same aura of dominance that Neuer and MAtS had.


PS when did Buffon & Cech fall off? Were either of them still at the height of their powers in the early part of that range?

Friend I’m talking about Courtois

 

[bluesfan94]

Objectively speaking, I think France will win this one
Sucks that Saiss is injured, but it's part of sports

This WC has been full of surprisrs though so we never know

to be fair, objectively speaking I thought Morocco wouldn't get out of its group.

 

[luiginb]

Typical blueblood behavior. A thread about the first semi-final with an African team and what we get is whichever blueblood team is the most accomplished in the past decades. Some shameful shit.

You're free to debate the relative strenghts and weaknesses of Benoun and El Yamiq in central defense but you might have to do it by yourself.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

Typical blueblood behavior. A thread about the first semi-final with an African team and what we get is whichever blueblood team is the most accomplished in the past decades. Some shameful shit.

We're talking about Germany in the France/Morocco thread and France/Morocco in the Germany thread.

 

[cgf]

Friend I’m talking about Courtois

lol my bad, thought you were talking about Lloris

 

[gary69]

They are going to be on the good stuff if they are playing through the pain barrier

Tramadol most likely (it will be banned as doping after the tournament apparently).

 

[Oberyn Martell]

France got this but they will loose the final