Speculation: With Marner @ 10.89 whats your guesses on the rest of the big RFA's?

[Tkachuky]

One of the talking heads on TSN said it best -- no team wants the player to be able to use Marner's deal as a comparable.... I think we see deals of the shorter variety for the most part, with guys like Tkachuk able to get a long term deal because he's objectively worse, but a known quantity.

Rantanen - 87 (96 point pace) -- $8.75m x 3 years
Marner - 94 - Signed for 6yrs/$10.89m
Point - 92 - $8.5m x 3 years
Aho - 83 - Signed 5 yrs/$8.45m
Tkachuk - 77 - $9.5m x 6 years
Connor - 66 - $6.5m x 3 years
Boeser - 56 (66 point pace) $6m x 3 years
Laine - 50 - $5m x 2 years

Chucky at 9.5 is insane. No chance in hell. I doubt he even breaks 8mil

 

[Throw More Waffles]

We already know he's going to sign for less. When it comes to real dollars, that's the way life works. Every team has it's advantages. Florida has a great state tax situation. Toronto has a lot of money to invest in other things hockey related. Tampa would be stupid to not use that to their advantage.

As an American resident paid almost entirely in signing bonuses, Matthews pays about the same taxes as a Tampa player.

I don’t see that reflected in his aav like I do with Tampa players.

 

[Holymakinaw]

1) I'm not a sens fan
2) Leafs can't bash any team for overpaying players. Dumbass is getting tossed around a rag doll in every negotiation by these kids' agent.

I'm excited to see how badly Barrie will take him to the cleaners next year.

Meh. The core is still locked up long-term!!

WOOO HOOO.

 

[DomBarr]

more than what they would have gotten in June and much more than if they had extended last season before the Matthews extension. The 2nd contract values for hi level RFA's have finished bring reset since the Ekblad, Eichel, Draisatl, McDavid contracts first started the process.
I wonder if the NHL takes a run at limiting them in the next CBA. If they future date the initial effective date the NHLPA wouldn't have an issue with it as all of their current members wouldn't be affected.

 

[ottawa]

Meh. The core is still locked up long-term!!

WOOO HOOO.

Everyone and their mothers knew Marner was signing there. We were just hoping he'd take Dumbass to the back shed and f*** him. And he did.

Barrie, Rielly, Andersen. There will be many cap casualties to come. And then of course the big 3 will be up for renewal after.

I think the Leafs need to win the cup 2-3 times within the next 5 years to justify these signings.

 

[Space Coyote]

Dumbass really messed up the market with overpaying Matthews/Nylander and now he had no choice with the best player of the 3 - Marner. Good luck to the rest of these GM's.

Dont know how the mods can allow such childish name calling on the mains.

 

[jasonleaffan]

Dont know how the mods can allow such childish name calling on the mains.

IKR?

Every post I see like that reeks of jealousy. Every GM in the league would pay the same if not more for the likes of Tavares, Matthews and Marner.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Point is comparable to Marner, but I could see Point going 3 years because of Tampa's cap situation.

3 years would be a good length for both sides because it is long enough to give Tampa a bit of cost certainty, but it also means the next contract comes when Tampa has more cap flexibility. The cap will have gone up, and Johnson/Palat/Killorn/Gourde will have their full NTCs turn into partial NTCs before Point's 3 year contract is up.

He could sign 3 years, 8M AAV with a 13M qualifying offer. He'll have two RFA years left, so the qualifying offer would make the total 5 RFA years the equivalent of having a 10.5M AAV. There would obviously be a high chance that he'd sign a long term deal after those 3 years are up rather than just taking his qualifying offer twice, but it's just meant to illustrate the value in an almost worst case scenario.

 

[Red Piller]

If Marner is better, how come the consensus among experts was that he should and will be paid less? ...and now he agreed to be paid less? Hmmmm. Part of your theory doesn’t seem to make much sense.

Nobody credible believes Mitch Marner is better than Auston Matthews.

He got 600k less. As a winger. He’s better than Matthews.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

My guess is agents try citing Marner's contract, and GM's respond, "LOLDUBAS."

 

[Dion TheFluff]

1) I'm not a sens fan
2) Leafs can't bash any team for overpaying players. Dumbass is getting tossed around a rag doll in every negotiation by these kids' agent.

I'm excited to see how badly Barrie will take him to the cleaners next year.

I mean I would rather pay Matthews, Marner and Tavares a little bit more than what they're worth than give 4.63 million to an AHL defenseman (Alzner) and paying two over the hill players a combined 20 million until they're well past their late 30's (Price and Weber)

 

[Dion TheFluff]

Chucky at 9.5 is insane. No chance in hell. I doubt he even breaks 8mil

who do u figure is on the way out to make room?
Frolik or Brodie possibly

 

[ottawa]

I mean I would rather pay Matthews, Marner and Tavares a little bit more than what they're worth than give 4.63 million to an AHL defenseman (Alzner) and paying two over the hill players a combined 20 million until they're well past their late 30's (Price and Weber)

Hmm...I'd rather not overpay for anyone but to each his own.

 

[capfit9]

Point $11.5M
Raantanen $11M
Laine $10 - $10.5M
Tkachuk $9.5 - $10M
Connor $8.5 - $9M
Boeser $8 - $8.5M

*all on 6 year deals

 

[BatVader]

Rantanen at $900,000 a year? Mighty generous of you Mr. Rantanen we will accept your offer.

That’s actually, Ranantan.
Rantanen will get a lot more

 

[MissouriMook]

Considering Kucherov out scored Point, was closer to UFA status, and took a 9.500/8 contract I think 9.500 should be the max offered for point. I think the only way Tampa remains competitive is for everyone to take discounts. It seems like the other leaders of the team have.

I'm guessing this is the hold up with Point, that the team has set the Kucherov and Vasilevskiy contracts as the upper limit and he and his agent are demanding more based on the market. I suspect that the team will hold firm on that but give a little on term and leave him at 5 x $9.5M.

I think Tkachuk gets 5 x $7.5M and Rantanen gets 7 x $9M.

 

[3074326]

Dont know how the mods can allow such childish name calling on the mains.

Are you going to be ok?

 

[hullsy47]

If Marner is better, how come the consensus among experts was that he should and will be paid less? ...and now he agreed to be paid less? Hmmmm. Part of your theory doesn’t seem to make much sense.

Nobody credible believes Mitch Marner is better than Auston Matthews.

Lebrun says he was told marner would get 10.5

 

[Leafs1993]

Everyone and their mothers knew Marner was signing there. We were just hoping he'd take Dumbass to the back shed and **** him. And he did.

Barrie, Rielly, Andersen. There will be many cap casualties to come. And then of course the big 3 will be up for renewal after.

I think the Leafs need to win the cup 2-3 times within the next 5 years to justify these signings.

Your hate for the leafs amuses me. Making it sound like it's such a bad thing to have all these elite players to sign.

I bet you wish the habs had the same problem, but they dont have any players nearly as skilled and they couldn't overpay any skilled player to play there.

I'll take my teams situation over yours 10 times outta 10. Dont be so salty

 

[Snowpants]

Point $11.5M
Raantanen $11M
Laine $10 - $10.5M
Tkachuk $9.5 - $10M
Connor $8.5 - $9M
Boeser $8 - $8.5M

*all on 6 year deals

Take a mill off each and you are bang on I think good work. Only wild card is Point who may help TB with a three year at 8 or around there.

Point 3 year 8 mill
Rants 6 year 10-10.5
Laine 6 year 9 mill
Tkachik 6 year 8.5
Connor 7 year 7.5
Boeser 6 year 7.5

 

[Mac Attack]

That’s actually, Ranantan.
Rantanen will get a lot more

Oh ok thanks fhiprbthe life changing vowel. You didn't catch my joke? The guy trolling before was saying $9 mil a year for two years but accidentally put a decimal in front. Oh well you can't win them all

 

[ottawa]

Your hate for the leafs amuses me. Making it sound like it's such a bad thing to have all these elite players to sign.

I bet you wish the habs had the same problem, but they dont have any players nearly as skilled and they couldn't overpay any skilled player to play there.

I'll take my teams situation over yours 10 times outta 10. Dont be so salty

Yes, the Leafs and their streak of missing or losing in the 1st is so enviable. I wish the habs were like that.

 

[WHISTLERNATE]

I'm going 4x7 for Boeser.

 

[Skolman]

Meh. The core is still locked up long-term!!

WOOO HOOO.

makinaw, Marner could have signed for 14 mil per, and you would think it's a great deal for the Leafs.

 

[Skolman]

IKR?

Every post I see like that reeks of jealousy. Every GM in the league would pay the same if not more for the likes of Tavares, Matthews and Marner.

Not for these two they wouldn't. Past RFA signings and the ones upcoming will be proof of that. Dubas gets hosed in RFA deals.