Transfer: Winter Transfer Rumors and Discussion - October-December

[cgf]

Well I mean you’re not wrong

Sure but players don't usually care about that kind of thing. That's a reason for clubs to pay up and for fans to want a move, but players care way more about location, prestige for their career/legacy, and playing with their buddies.

 

[Savant]

I mean, you could've afforded to grab Camara, Seiwald, & Thuram, AND see if you'll be able to beat Real & co. to Bellingham...or if Kone will be your best option. Especially if letting your midfield deteriorate while you wait around for Jude's decision, ends up costing you a top 4 finish.

Missing the CL once wouldn't cost you the full 70-80M difference between Kone & Jude's likely pricetags, but it's not like spending the 60-80M that Camara, Seiwald, & Thuram should cost, would've prevented you from paying for Jude if you can get him this summer

I agree. You are preaching to the choir. But again LFC, at the minimum, are prude.

Since Summer 2019, if you look at top six in PL. they’ve made half (or less) the number of 20m+ signings compared to every other top six team (not sure if Gakpo/Badashile were accounted for).

LFC have made 5 of this signings. Everyone else besides City (who have 8) has made at least 10.

There haven’t been a lot of misses there compared to others but that’s the biggest reason the squad isn’t refreshed. They have not bought from a position of strength. They are prude/too selective/dumb/whatever you want to call it.

 

[bluesfan94]

Bayern seems set to sign Sommer to replace Neuer. Was a rumor from sky yesterday that BMG wanted Matt Ryan to replace him, but that doesn't make much sense given his limitations with the ball.

Surprised they're not after MAtS

 

[The Abusement Park]

Obviously; Bruno - Casemiro - de Jong is the perfect modern midfield...

In all seriousness it is lol. Its not going to happen but I can dream.

 

[Power Man]

 

[cgf]

Surprised they're not after MAtS

MAtS seems happy in Barcelona, and Bayern doesn't really spend big on older players anymore.

They'll go after vets that they can get at discount prices like Sabitzer & Laimer...but they only pay the big bucks for guys that they can get 3-5 years out of before selling for more than they bought them for.

They just don't have the financial muscle to maintain their position without buying smarter than the other giants; thus all of the money they've been putting into their academy and kids who haven't yet become senior-team superstars.

 

[bluesfan94]

Since Summer 2019, if you look at top six in PL. they’ve made half (or less) the number of every other top six team (not sure if Gakpo/Badashile were accounted for).

LFC have made 5 of this signings. Everyone else besides City (who have 8) has made at least 10.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, but since Summer 2019, Liverpool has brought in:

1) Nunez
2) Ramsay
3) Gakpo
4) Carvalho
5) Diaz
6) Konate
7) Jota
8) Tsimikas
9) Thiago
and if you include 2019,
10) Minamino
11) Van Den Berg

Which is still fewer than most clubs, I'm just trying to understand what you meant.

MAtS seems happy in Barcelona, and Bayern doesn't really spend big on older players anymore.

They'll go after vets that they can get at discount prices like Sabitzer & Laimer...but they only pay the big bucks for guys that they can get 3-5 years out of before selling for more than they bought them for.

They just don't have the financial muscle to maintain their position without buying smarter than the other giants; thus all of the money they've been putting into their academy and kids who haven't yet become senior-team superstars.

Yeah I just thought the German connection might help.

New thread time:

Transfer: - Winter Transfer Rumors and Discussion - January

The window is open and so is this thread.

forums.hfboards.com

 

[cgf]

I agree. You are preaching to the choir. But again LFC, at the minimum, are prude.

Since Summer 2019, if you look at top six in PL. they’ve made half (or less) the number of every other top six team (not sure if Gakpo/Badashile were accounted for).

LFC have made 5 of this signings. Everyone else besides City (who have 8) has made at least 10.

There haven’t been a lot of misses there compared to others but that’s the biggest reason the squad isn’t refreshed. They have not bought from a position of strength. They are prude/too selective/dumb/whatever you want to call it.

What's so weird about it is that it's not like you had a Jude the last time Klopp won you trophies. Your midfield had great energy, but it was more functional than technical, giving the front 3 + WBs a strong base and pressing ferociously. You don't need a Jude to recreate that. That can be achieved with Fabinho, Kone, Thuram, Camara, Seiwald, Elliott, & Carvahlo.

This obsession with getting Jude to be your new Gerrard is some seriously ManU-esque foolishness.

 

[Evilo]

Neither did Enzo according to this

Not what Benfica fans are saying.
He was neither authorized to go back to new year's even in Argentina nor taking a training off according to them.

If it was up to me. LFC need at least one, probably two starting caliber guys. Kone I have always liked but he might be a bit raw right now. Thuram probably more raw than Kone. It’s a lousy situation. I think this waiting for Bellingham is insane.

I advise you to catch the Rennes/Nice replay from last night (skip the freaky Terrier injury though, terrible moment).
Todibo and Thuram are hardly raw and would solve A LOT of team's problems.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Not what Benfica fans are saying.
He was neither authorized to go back to new year's even in Argentina nor taking a training off according to them.

I would trust Merlo (one of the best sources in Argentina) more than some random Benfica fans.

 

[Evilo]

I don’t think any of those are bad names. And to an extent I agree. But they do need a franchise player in the midfield too.

How many franchise midfielders did you have when you won the EPL/CL?

What's so weird about it is that it's not like you had a Jude the last time Klopp won you trophies. Your midfield had great energy, but it was more functional than technical, giving the front 3 + WBs a strong base and pressing ferociously. You don't need a Jude to recreate that. That can be achieved with Fabinho, Kone, Thuram, Camara, Seiwald, Elliott, & Carvahlo.

This obsession with getting Jude to be your new Gerrard is some seriously ManU-esque foolishness.

100%

I would trust Merlo (one of the best sources in Argentina) more than some random Benfica fans.

Hardly random. Those are people close to the club.
Not surprised an argentinian source gives the argentinian player's side though He probably had only Enzo's words.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Hardly random. Those are people close to the club.
Not surprised an argentinian source gives the argentinian player's side though He probably had only Enzo's words.

You said "fans" where are your Benfica sources saying he didnt have permission? Same can be said about Benfica fans...

As for the latter part thats speculation... He's one of the best journalists in Argentina. Unless you can provide the same you are speculating.

 

[Evilo]

You said "fans" where are your Benfica sources saying he didnt have permission? Same can be said about Benfica fans...

As for the latter part thats speculation... He's one of the best journalists in Argentina. Unless you can provide the same you are speculating.

For instance Benfica france or some various portugese football insiders.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

For instance Benfica france or some various portugese football insiders.

Yeah, like I said provide the source like I did.

 

[Evilo]

You said "fans" where are your Benfica sources saying he didnt have permission? Same can be said about Benfica fans...

As for the latter part thats speculation... He's one of the best journalists in Argentina. Unless you can provide the same you are speculating.

I mean, it's everywhere on Twitter.

Record said it.

Enzo Fernández gera bronca: Benfica faz ultimato e avança com punição do médio

Falhou os dois treinos de ontem, deixou Schmidt irritado e vai ser penalizado pelo Benfica. Enquanto isso, o Chelsea repensa e pode congelar proposta até ao mercado de verão

www.record.pt

"Enzo Fernández generates scolding: Benfica makes ultimatum and advances with midfielder punishment
He missed the two training sessions yesterday, irritated Schmidt and will be penalized by Benfica."

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

If that true then Benfica would penalize him as reported in the link you provided. Best to wait and see if they do punish him then Merlo is wrong if they dont then he's right. I would trust him as I said he;s reliable.

 

[LOGiK]

The Celtic Rangers match was pretty wild.
Lots of run and gun... Ibrox is one of my favorite atmospheres

 

[Savant]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, but since Summer 2019, Liverpool has brought in:

1) Nunez
2) Ramsay
3) Gakpo
4) Carvalho
5) Diaz
6) Konate
7) Jota
8) Tsimikas
9) Thiago
and if you include 2019,
10) Minamino
11) Van Den Berg

Which is still fewer than most clubs, I'm just trying to understand what you meant.


Yeah I just thought the German connection might help.

New thread time:

Transfer: - Winter Transfer Rumors and Discussion - January

The window is open and so is this thread.

forums.hfboards.com

Edited wrong, but meant to say transfers over 20m

What's so weird about it is that it's not like you had a Jude the last time Klopp won you trophies. Your midfield had great energy, but it was more functional than technical, giving the front 3 + WBs a strong base and pressing ferociously. You don't need a Jude to recreate that. That can be achieved with Fabinho, Kone, Thuram, Camara, Seiwald, Elliott, & Carvahlo.

This obsession with getting Jude to be your new Gerrard is some seriously ManU-esque foolishness.

For sure. Agree with all of this. I don’t think it’s a coincidence with Edwards/Ward leaving. FSG selling. Something behind the scenes is up. Either way LFC are not behaving in the way that made them successful

Not what Benfica fans are saying.
He was neither authorized to go back to new year's even in Argentina nor taking a training off according to them.


I advise you to catch the Rennes/Nice replay from last night (skip the freaky Terrier injury though, terrible moment).
Todibo and Thuram are hardly raw and would solve A LOT of team's problems.

If it was up to me. But as I have said, LFC have kind of trapped themselves in a corner now with the Jude stuff.

 

[cgf]

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