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[Rzombo4 prez]

Agreed. I haven't seen any of the tournament but I think Seider spoiled us.

I want to see our shiny new toy in the lineup, but it's not the worst thing in the world if a 19 year old defenseman prospect has to play all or part of a season in GR to hone his game.

No question Seider has f***ed up expectations

 

[SuperScript29]

Agreed. I haven't seen any of the tournament but I think Seider spoiled us.

I think that's the major issue with the expectations I'm seeing here, granted I still think Seider is going to be the better dman, but after watching Edvinsson play, he defiantly has the talent to potentially be a top pairing guy someday. The other thing that we forget is that after he was drafted, Seider played two years in pro leagues until he made the jump to the big club, Edvinsson only had one pro season so far.

It will help if Edvinsson starts the year with the Griffins this season. If he progresses significantly maybe he'll get called up, but he should at least expect that he'll play the rest of the year there.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

No question Seider has f***ed up expectations

That’s the problem. Seider is a bonafide superstar and will be getting Norris votes soon. The only other rookie defensemen to do what Seider did in the last 29 years are also superstars.

Edvinsson is 2 years younger. He’s still got a way to go. Can Edvinsson become a superstar? Maybe. Is it more likely he just becomes a star? I think so.

If Seider is our Makar then Edvinsson can be our Toews. Or maybe it’s more Keith/Seabrook or Hedmam/McDonagh.

 

[JediOrderPizza]

That’s the problem. Seider is a bonafide superstar and will be getting Norris votes soon. The only other rookie defensemen to do what Seider did in the last 29 years are also superstars.

Edvinsson is 2 years younger. He’s still got a way to go. Can Edvinsson become a superstar? Maybe. Is it more likely he just becomes a star? I think so.

If Seider is our Makar then Edvinsson can be our Toews. Or maybe it’s more Keith/Seabrook or Hedmam/McDonagh.

Pronger/Niedermayer.

 

[Ricelund]

Pronger/Niedermayer.

Two HOFers? I love the vision.

 

[Henkka]

Pronger/Niedermayer.

Pronger/Niedermayer/Rafalski (in Johansson).

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Pronger/Niedermayer.

That’s the best case scenario. I hope we’re that lucky but we’ll see. I really think Edvinsson will take longer to develop fully than Seider.

 

[RedHawkDown]

Aim big fellas. Seider is Pronger and Edvinsson is Hedman

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

I was at the friday game. I can definitely see the critique of edvinsson needing more urgency, but I also think that’s partially of just who he is as a person and player. You don’t really ever see him super intense. I thought he broke up a lot of plays with his stick and offensively made some really good passes. He certainly ran the powerplay well. But I’m confused why it’s such an issue for people if he doesn’t make the team and needs a development year in GR. Like we shouldn’t have him on the team just to do it.

 

[norrisnick]

Freedooom!!! Ok, that out of the way...

I was at the friday game. I can definitely see the critique of edvinsson needing more urgency, but I also think that’s partially of just who he is as a person and player. You don’t really ever see him super intense. I thought he broke up a lot of plays with his stick and offensively made some really good passes. He certainly ran the powerplay well. But I’m confused why it’s such an issue for people if he doesn’t make the team and needs a development year in GR. Like we shouldn’t have him on the team just to do it.

To me it's less the need of a year of development, and more a view that the developing he needs, GR can't provide. His body is ready, he's played against men and succeeded. What he needs is acclimating to speed and the AHL isn't it. He needs exposure to the pace of the NHL, shift in and shift out. Then once he gets used to the speed he can reach back into his bag of tricks.

 

[rbartnik]

I am glad Cossa is playing well this camp. We spent 2 high first round draft picks on him so it is important he pans out.

How does #23 + a second + a fifth = 2 high firsts?

 

[SCD]

How does #23 + a second + a fifth = 2 high firsts?

You obviously are not familiar with the new math being taught at school today, The correct answer is what ever you would like that make you feel good.

 

[Henkka]

You obviously are not familiar with the new math being taught at school today, The correct answer is what ever you would like that make you feel good.

It was Cossa for two 1sts and getting Edvinsson as a free bonus.

 

[Henkka]

Tournament stats.

 

[Lil Bert]

I didn't see much more than a game and a half, but did I miss the part where Edvinsson was really sound defensively? He was flashy and full of talent but I can't count the number of times where there was a 2-on-1 created because he misread the play and jumped when he should have settled back.

The reason Seider made the jump to the show right away was because his fundamentals were so sound. He rarely got beat defensively and was always in position. Now Edvinsson may actually have more ~skill~ than Seider but if I were a betting man, he is going to spend time in GR until he is over ripened.

 

[norrisnick]

I didn't see much more than a game and a half, but did I miss the part where Edvinsson was really sound defensively? He was flashy and full of talent but I can't count the number of times where there was a 2-on-1 created because he misread the play and jumped when he should have settled back.

The reason Seider made the jump to the show right away was because his fundamentals were so sound. He rarely got beat defensively and was always in position. Now Edvinsson may actually have more ~skill~ than Seider but if I were a betting man, he is going to spend time in GR until he is over ripened.

I just don't see anything Ed can learn in the AHL that he wouldn't learn better and quicker at the NHL. Becoming a steady Eddie in the AHL is pointless when you want this guy to be a dynamic game-changer at the NHL level. He needs to learn the timing of when and how to jump and when to retreat at NHL speed not AHL speed.

To expand, to your point the misreads and all that is stuff that Ed had already figured out in the SHL. These are all things he knows how to do, gap control, pinch/don't pinch, etc... "Learning" them in the AHL just to have to "learn" them again at the NHL speed is pointless. What he has to do is take what he already knows how to do and apply it to the NHL speed.

There will be mistakes as he calibrates to NHL speed. That's just the type of defenseman he is. Once he's calibrated tho... that's when the fun starts.