Rumor: Wings had offer on the table for Barzal

[Ricelund]

Not sure how we missed this yesterday, but Arthur Staple of The Athletic tweeted that the Wings had a fair deal on the table for Barzal:



He was replying to an account that's now private, which is why the tweets won't show up.

Maybe this is a deal we see get done this summer -- have to assume it was Bertuzzi going the other way.

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[Frk It]

Fair according to who? Apparently not them.

Not sure what I am supposed to take from this. Would have been over the moon to add Barzal, though.

 

[Larkin2AA]

Jeez, I wish I could see the offer.

 

[Go Wings]

Would love to know what the offer was?

 

[jkutswings]

Fair according to who? Apparently not them.

Not sure what I am supposed to take from this. Would have been over the moon to add Barzal, though.

Agreed. I'd be happy to part with Bertuzzi and this year's first as a starting point for a (nearly) 25 year old quality center.

 

[TheHelmet]

Bertuzzi plus going the other way

 

[Ricelund]

Have to think it was Bertuzzi and Veleno/Rasmussen/Zadina going the other way with maybe a some picks thrown in.

Barzal (or any young 2C) would be a huge addition for the rebuild. Your core is Larkin, Barzal, Raymond, Seider, and hopefully Edvinsson and Cossa going forward. Vrana, Fabbri, and Berggren fill out the rest of the top six.

 

[jkutswings]

If Detroit manages to land Barzal this summer, while retaining all of Seider / Larkin / Raymond, I would be beyond thrilled.

 

[Retire91]

Dang! wish that would have landed

 

[SCD]

For those who felt Yzerman seemed more aggravated than usual in yesterday's presser, maybe this was the reason.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

I don't know what a fair deal for Barzal would be, those guys don't get traded. Closest was maybe Laine for Dubois (two guys with RFA expiry status). Detroit has no one like that which makes me think it was Bertuzzi + (or possibly Larkin +).

 

[datsyukfan]

Maybe this years 1st + Zadina + prospect for barzal. Sign Bert and Larkin long term.

I’d do it

 

[Larkin2AA]

I don't know what a fair deal for Barzal would be, those guys don't get traded. Closest was maybe Laine for Dubois (two guys with RFA expiry status). Detroit has no one like that which makes me think it was Bertuzzi + (or possibly Larkin +).

Wouldn’t be Larkin. It would have been Bert +. Maybe Bert + this years 1st and someone like Ras/Veleno.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

For barzal you'd have to think it would start with Bertuzzi, our 1st and a prospect or young guy like zadina, Rasmussen or Valeno

I would do it

 

[newfy]

Barzal hasnt been the same guy that he was in his 85 point rookie year, but he would still be a huge add as a second line center. If you think you would have to give up Larkin + more stuff, youre overvaluing him. Hes fast but fairly soft. Having a work horse like Larkin though would kinda balance that out

I wouldnt be surprised if it was Bertuzzi plus some other stuff added. Hopefully Yzerman does it in the summer

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

Wouldn’t be Larkin. It would have been Bert +. Maybe Bert + this years 1st and someone like Ras/Veleno.

I just don't get how that would be fair to be honest. You don't trade 24 year old star centers for that, even if you have to qualify them at 10 million dollars in a year.

 

[jkutswings]

OK, full daydreaming time now.

Assuming the below would not be part of the trade, there could be a top six of:

Raymond - Larkin - XXX
Vrana - Barzal - XXX

And I'd hope that Berggren would eventually take one of those remaining spots, with the other up for grabs. But that's a legit top 6!!! Then add Edvinsson in the mix on defense, hopefully find a way to add at least one other blueliner, and it's at minimum a noticeable step forward next season.

Please let this not also fall into the, "We're Not Allowed to Have Nice Things" category...

 

[seafoam]

Had to be for Larkin.

 

[newfy]

I just don't get how that would be fair to be honest. You don't trade 24 year old star centers for that, even if you have to qualify them at 10 million dollars in a year.

Barzal isnt some major star though. Hes kinda stagnated and his somewhat soft play has started to annoy some Isles fans for sure. Lou Lamirello is the exact type of oldschool hockey guy that trades a guy like that if he doesnt like how soft he is

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Bertuzzi plus going the other way

The plus was probably our first round pick. Maybe more.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

Barzal isnt some major star though. Hes kinda stagnated and his somewhat soft play has started to annoy some Isles fans for sure. Lou Lamirello is the exact type of oldschool hockey guy that trades a guy like that if he doesnt like how soft he is

I don't know man I think red wings fans are salivating in this thread and getting carried away with fantasies at this point. I'll eject the thread and let Islanders fans step in and share how they would feel about trading Barzal for Bertuzzi, a 1st in this draft (should be high pick but the consensus is the draft is weak), and a prospect (Probably a B-level in your imagination).

MAYBE if the 1st had no lottery protection it makes sense. Yzerman rolling the dice here a bit, but even Shane Wright doesn't seem like a huge prize at this point in time tbh.

Edit: my bad didn't realize this was the Red Wings board, oh well that's my opinion as a devils fan

 

[seafoam]

I don't know man I think red wings fans are salivating in this thread and getting carried away with fantasies at this point. I'll eject the thread and let Islanders fans step in and share how they would feel about trading Barzal for Bertuzzi, a 1st in this draft (should be high pick but the consensus is the draft is weak), and a prospect (Probably a B-level in your imagination).

MAYBE if the 1st had no lottery protection it makes sense. Yzerman rolling the dice here a bit, but even Shane Wright doesn't seem like a huge prize at this point in time tbh.

Lou should be fired if he traded Barzal for Bertuzzi + DET's 1st.

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

The plus was probably our first round pick. Maybe more.

Barzal is a legit 1b C with Larkin though. You make that deal and being in the “Wright sweepstakes” all of a sudden matters a whole lot less. Barzal is 100% what we should be targeting

 

[Ezekial]

Had to be for Larkin.

Why would we trade Larkin for Barzal? One is having a much better season than the other both offensively and defensively.

Larkin would be 1C to Barzal's 2C

 

[JohanFranzenstein]

I mean, I wouldn't hate it if it were Bert+ if Barzal could be a consistent 60 pt 2C guy. But I have my doubts it'd happen here.