I don't even know who that is. You're the one who brought up the ridiculous notion that you have to rank players based on cups. Gretzky only has 4 cups, Beliveau 10. You think Beliveau is better?
From the players listed. Datsyuk has 2 cups. I'd still easily take Lindros, Bure and McDavid ahead of him all-time.
No, I didn't.
Am I talking to a bot here or something?
I'm missing the punchline.
Cups aren't everything, but when people talk about whose who, cups are always in the conversation.
For years people constantly compared Crosby and Ovechkin and the minute that Ovechkin won his cup the TV really muted it self on that narrative since both of them had one a cup.
When people talk about GOATS, they're always counting cups and
OBVIOUSLY I NEED TO POINT IT OUT TO YOU THAT JUST THAT THEY'RE COUNTING CUPS DOESN'T MEAN THAT CUPS ARE THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS.
And Beliveau is probably one of the most underrated hockey players of all time after Claude Lemieux.
And yes, I'd easily take Datsyuk over Lindros, Bure or McDavid. (Assuming McDavid's career was over today.
Datsyuk had great offense, was god-tier in the shootout when teams were still figuring it out and he was a top 3 shutdown center in the league throughout the majority of his career.
I'm an Oil fan and I'm very comfortable saying that McDavid and Drai would be coughing up the puck left right and center while on the ice with Datsyuk.
Bure never won a cup and was too 1 dimensional to be in the conversation.
Head injuries caused Lindros to regress far too early in his career and he spent too much time off from concussions during his prime years.
Datsyuk by a country mile. He easily accomplished more than Bure and Lindros combined.
Do you think Lindros or Bure would have waited so long to get into the HHOF if they'd won a cup?
No, that was a rhetorical question.
Teams win cups. Not players.
Teams consist of 20-30 players.
So what are you insinuating? That there's no point in having a HHOF caliber player on your team? Your team is just
bound to win a cup if they play well as a team, right?
Did Correy Perry and Ryan Getslaf get huge raises because they were great team players or because they won a cup?
How about Kane and Toews?
Please.
Please
Think about the implications of what you're saying here before you reply.
Cups matter.
Teams sign depth players to be bench warmers from former champion teams just because they want someone in the locker room that went through that. That knows what the grind is like.
Cups matter.
If Cups didn't matter then people wouldn't bother mentioning how many cups said individual won with their respective teams when they're nominated to enter the HHOF.