Speculation: Will Burmistrov return to the Jets??
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Sweech
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Don't think it will be this year and I'm not sure whether next year is an option either due to contract. I'd love to have him back and the lineup could definitely use the extra infusion of talent.
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sipowicz
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Top 6? 10 goals in 47 games in the crappy KHL isn't exactly tearing it up. If Jokinen doesn't sign with the Jets in the summer Burmi will make a good 3rd line centre, if Jokinen signs then Burmi makes a really good 4th line centre. Trouble is you will need to pay him a lot and a lot meaning money you don't pay a bottom 6 guy.
Holden Caulfield
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Top 6? 15 goals in 41 games in the crappy KHL isn't exactly tearing it up. If Setoguchi doesn't sign with the Jets in the summer Kovy will make a good 3rd line left wing, if Setoguchi signs then Kovy makes a really good 4th line left wing. Trouble is you will need to pay him a lot and a lot meaning money you don't pay a bottom 6 guy.
AlphaLackey
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Your satire makes its last stand, and tragically dies, on the belief that either Kovalchuk or Burmistrov is a top 6 forward in the modern NHL. I agree with your claim that the statement "Burmistrov is a top forward if and only if Kovalchuk is a top forward" is literally true, I simply disagree with the second premise that either of those two are top forwards for Winnipeg today. I wouldn't take Setoguchi, Jokinen or Buff off the 3rd line for either of these two. If that makes me a bad coach, so be it.
Sweech
Oh When the Spurs
Do you seriously not think Kovalchuk is a top line NHL winger?
Wow. Just wow.
If Kovy came here he would easily be the most talented winger on this roster.
AlphaLackey
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Would he? In his last year in the NHL (11G in 37 games) he prorated to 24 goals in a full season. We'll have several forwards better than that, never mind the effect of two years of rust accumulated from playing in a B-league-at-best.
I wouldn't replace Kane, Wheeler, Ladd or Frolik with him; all are on pace to score more except Frolik, who is very close but is far better a two way player; none of those top 4 wingers are the petulant head-case that Kovalchuk is.
If you have a time machine and get me the 3-4 years prior Kovy, maybe. But while we're at it, I'd rather get the 3-4 years prior Jagr for a song.
Sweech
Oh When the Spurs
So I guess his 20 assists also don't mean anything, while on a team that's severely lacking talent? Or being over a point per game the year before.
Kovalchuk is still one of the most highly skilled hockey players in the world.
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Sweech
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AlphaLackey
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They don't mean NOTHING, but we both know they are each not worth a goal, through simple economics.
"The year before" is huge, especially when you are talking about a player 5+ years past his statistical primes. Ray Whitney went from "a point per game" two years ago to mud last year, to mud squared the year after.
Just going by his last year's NHL stats alone, Kovy would not be a top 2 line winger with the Jets. Add in two years of rust playing in a B-league on top of his skittish lack of dedication to the NHL. He'd be a great 3rd line winger if they moved Buff back to D, but would certainly insist on a lot more than 3rd line winger money. So, let him rot accepting 95% of his salary in danger pay flying twin props from one 20,000-pop Eurasian town to another, he's clearly happier that way.
almostawake
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Your commitment to this ridiculous premise is impressive.
In general, taking a Sip post and trying to argue it logically is a really really bad idea.
In general, taking a Sip post and trying to argue it logically is a really really bad idea.
I don't know where Kovalchuk stands to be honest, he's producing about the same as Nigel Dawes this year. He's definitely not an elite hockey player today.
I agree with sip on this one, Burmi is a problem trade his rights for a pick anything. We dont need a guy who thinks hes datsyuk but is really not even close.
Burmi would help the Jets, but I don't see him in a top 6 role, certainly not at center. Soon Scheifele will be the team's undisputed top center likely playing with Kane and Wheeler. Next would be LLF. Maybe Burmi is a good fit as center on the 3rd line. Maybe he plays wing on the 3rd if Olli resigns. I'm assuming Seto is long gone by next season.
Channelcat
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Burmistrov certainly has some skill. I would be curious to see him play under Maurice. Noel was such a disaster, it was hard to evaluate this team as a group or individually.
Holden Caulfield
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Wow. The one thing I did not expect at all was people would argue that Kovalchuk wasn't a legit top 6 forward. I mean I could see not a franchise player anymore, but what? It...boggles the mind. Just, I mean, what?
Kovalchuk is a top 3 forward on almost any team in the NHL. Nevermind not a top 9 forward on the freaking Jets.
A Whitney comparison? Kovalchuk is 30 years old, not 41 years old (not too mention almost a ppg at 40 last year).
This just makes no sense, other than some ridiculous outdated (even then never really true) idea that NHL contains the best 600 players somehow. Kovalchuk is one of the best players in the world as this tournament in a few weeks will show, you doubters will see.
Kovalchuk is a top 3 forward on almost any team in the NHL. Nevermind not a top 9 forward on the freaking Jets.
A Whitney comparison? Kovalchuk is 30 years old, not 41 years old (not too mention almost a ppg at 40 last year).
This just makes no sense, other than some ridiculous outdated (even then never really true) idea that NHL contains the best 600 players somehow. Kovalchuk is one of the best players in the world as this tournament in a few weeks will show, you doubters will see.
I think Burmistrov would help this team as a 3rd line center more than Jokinen would next year. He is a great checking center. If Maurice could get his head in the right place, he could play with just about any winger we have. If he's gone so be it, but he's still such a promising young player.
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Don't discount Olli's leadership though. Replacing our most veteran, vocal leader with a hard-to-coach sometimes brat with a language barrier may not be best for this group
Samcanadian
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The only reason people figure Burmi didn't pan out was because of his unwillingness to play into Noel's system/being a brat. Add a couple years of experience/age and have him underneath a coach who has much more experience with young/immature players and I think we see a different result.
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