I like how when Sid doesn't have the highest PPG, and plays fewer games than the guy who did (like 2008 and 2017) you simply assume Crosby would have increased his PPG. Not merely sustained (which is difficult already), but increased. Hooray for more fantasy Art Rosses!
I also like how a 22 game sample is good enough to pretend he would have topped Malkin's 112 points in 75 games. And you do this by pretending Crosby is healthy, and simply assuming he has his best season ever, but no such extrapolation is made for Malkin's 7 games missed.
And when Sid did have a higher PPG by a mere .01 (like in 2015), it's "a lock!" Crosby had a rock solid insurmountable 1% lead!
The premise of the thread is if no injury. I mean you can not like the premise, but not sure why you're upset at people responding within the premise.
To me the Art Rosses for Crosby would be:
2007
2014
He won those 2 fairly convincingly, no one was going to top him.
2011. He was playing his best hockey, ahead in the race - I get he only played half the season but i don't care, he was going to win it.
2013. He was well ahead of the pack with 12 games to go that he missed. Again, pretty easy win. Sure it's within the statistic realm of probability that he slumps majorly in both season and misses out - but i think those 2 wins are rather safe.
2012. It's less about extrapolating his ppg for 22 games to a full 82 games and pretending he'd score 135+ points, than it is about looking at how dominant he was the year before, the year after, and the games he played that season. I think he would
definitely be the favorite for the ross that year, above Malkin. Doesn't mean he wins it for sure, as Malkin had a very strong year, but i'd say over 50% chance he beats Malkin in a full season. Let's say 60/40 as an estimate.
That's 5.
2010 he lost fair and square.
2015 he lost fair and square (maybe 5 more games makes a difference - but 5 games is such a small #, i don't think it warrants too close of a look).
2008. This one is tricky. 72 points in 54 games, on pace for 109. Ovi wins it with 112 points. Now obviously, in a full season i'd give Ovie the odds as the favorite here. But considering Crosby missed enough games (and that it comes after his dominant 2007 season), it's a bit of a guess how his numbers end out in a full 82 games. I'd say 30% chance he beats Ovi, 70% chance Ovi beats him, as an estimate.
2017. Similar to 2015, too little games missed to really matter. There is some case to be made that he was red hot at the beginning of the season, so if you give him those extra 5-7 games in october, maybe he scores above his season ppg enough to end up with more points than McDavid by season end. I'd say at most 10% chance of winning, and that's if we even want to consider it - 75 games is close enough to a full season already.
So in my opinion he'd almost definitely have at least 4, with a strong possibility of 5. 6 isn't impossible, but unlikely.
I don't think injuries change anything for Jagr. Even if he played all 82 games in 97, he wouldn't have beat Mario. Mario's scoring pace went down when Jagr got injured - if they're both healthy Lemieux likely scores more too, and still ends up on top. Not sure what other season if any affect Jagr. 2006 - again, lost to Thornton fair and square.
