Who would you start a team with? Three young stars.

[joe dirte]

Would you agree Matthews is a 2nd line C as well then? As all of those have outscored Matthews this year.

Leon Draisaitl at 5 on 5 - 43 points
with McD - 461 minutes - 22 points - 2.86 points/60
without - 568 minutes - 21 points - 2.21 points/60 (that's roughly a 44 point at ES for a year - a low 60s player)
Matthews
overall points per 60 - 2.92

in addition to this, Matthews has a much higher proportion that are goals. all of that in only his second year, one hampered by injury.

High Danger chances for/60
Matthews 4.97 vs Draisaitl 3.15
You could go on and on. He's better at literally every part of hockey.

Which is exactly why he's the number 1 forward on an elite team, and Draisaitl is second fiddle on a bottom dweller.

It really isn't close. This year, it goes like this:
McDavid
Matthews

Marner


Nylander/Draisaitl




draisaitl goes dry every time he's taken off mcdavids wing. and that's a major reason why the oilers are so bad. Draisaitls failure to carry play away from mcdavid is a major reason for the oilers trouble.

 

[hockeyguy1967]

Leon Draisaitl at 5 on 5 - 43 points
with McD - 461 minutes - 22 points - 2.86 points/60
without - 568 minutes - 21 points - 2.21 points/60 (that's roughly a 44 point at ES for a year - a low 60s player)
Matthews
overall points per 60 - 2.92

in addition to this, Matthews has a much higher proportion that are goals. all of that in only his second year, one hampered by injury.

High Danger chances for/60
Matthews 4.97 vs Draisaitl 3.15
You could go on and on. He's better at literally every part of hockey.

Which is exactly why he's the number 1 forward on an elite team, and Draisaitl is second fiddle on a bottom dweller.

It really isn't close. This year, it goes like this:
McDavid
Matthews

Marner


Nylander/Draisaitl




draisaitl goes dry every time he's taken off mcdavids wing. and that's a major reason why the oilers are so bad. Draisaitls failure to carry play away from mcdavid is a major reason for the oilers trouble.

Fake news. If you are going to copy stats, please make sure they are up to date. Drai has 55 ES and 4SHP. Here are up to date stats all even strength.

Connor of course blows them all away, Drai and Matthews very close, with Nylander behind quite a bit and Marner basically a PP specialist at this point.

McDavid ES p/60= 3.6 CF 53.5 FEN 54.4
Drai ES p/60=2.9 CF 53.5 FEN 54.8
Matthews ES p/60=3.0 CF 53.4 FEN 51.6
Nylander ES p/60=2.4 CF 51.6 FEN 49.2
Marner ES p/60=2.1 CF 52.9 FEN 50.9

Also, I posted this in late Feb

Matthews 5v5 with Nylander 596:52
Matthews 5v5 without Nylander 196:21
Plays 25% without Nylander 5v5

Leon Draisaitl
With McDavid: 3.08
Without McDavid: 2.03

Connor McDavid
With Draisaitl: 3.85
Without Draisaitl: 2.24

Auston Matthews
With Nylander: 3.22
Without Nylander: 1.83

William Nylander
With Matthews: 2.71
Without Matthews: 1.86

So according to you Matthews is roughly a 37 point at ES for a year - a mid 50s player?
Right?

I will be nice and put Matthews above Drai due to goalscoring and age

McDavid



Matthews
Drai


Nylander

Marner

Anyways since I am sure you will be never posting in this thread again, seeya!

 

[joe dirte]

Fake news. If you are going to copy stats, please make sure they are up to date. Drai has 55 ES and 4SHP. Here are up to date stats all even strength.

Connor of course blows them all away, Drai and Matthews very close, with Nylander behind quite a bit and Marner basically a PP specialist at this point.

McDavid ES p/60= 3.6 CF 53.5 FEN 54.4
Drai ES p/60=2.9 CF 53.5 FEN 54.8
Matthews ES p/60=3.0 CF 53.4 FEN 51.6
Nylander ES p/60=2.4 CF 51.6 FEN 49.2
Marner ES p/60=2.1 CF 52.9 FEN 50.9

Also, I posted this in late Feb

Matthews 5v5 with Nylander 596:52
Matthews 5v5 without Nylander 196:21
Plays 25% without Nylander 5v5

Leon Draisaitl
With McDavid: 3.08
Without McDavid: 2.03

Connor McDavid
With Draisaitl: 3.85
Without Draisaitl: 2.24

Auston Matthews
With Nylander: 3.22
Without Nylander: 1.83

William Nylander
With Matthews: 2.71
Without Matthews: 1.86

So according to you Matthews is roughly a 37 point at ES for a year - a mid 50s player?
Right?

I will be nice and put Matthews above Drai due to goalscoring and age

McDavid



Matthews
Drai


Nylander

Marner

Anyways since I am sure you will be never posting in this thread again, seeya!

5v5. you're wrong. I win. just like the playoff leafs over basement dwelling coilers.

 

[Brobust]

Matthews, Marner, Rielly

 

[hockeyguy1967]

5v5. you're wrong. I win. just like the playoff leafs over basement dwelling coilers.

Nah, you win an addition to my ignore list kiddo.

 

[maxb221]

Boeser, Pettersson, Dahlin

 

[DaJackal]

1)McDavid trio
2) Matthews trio
3) Barkov trio
4) MacKinnon trio
5) Scheifele trio
6)Gaudreau trio

This, but with #3 and #5 flipped. Also, I'm not completely sold that McD trio should be #1 but a) I haven't watched enough Leafs games in order to know how good Reilly actually is and b) I'd be slightly concerned about Matthews' injuries. I'm not saying he is injury prone because that'd be a hyperbole, but you know, there are at least 4 or 5 really good trios in that group, so it's a tight one and all things should be considered.

Good thread btw.

 

[joe dirte]

Nah, you win an addition to my ignore list kiddo.

oh no!!!!!

lol.

so delusional. I'll never understand how fans of the worst teams in the league think their team is chock full of elite players.

 

[LordNeverLose]

Barzal, Zadina, Dahlin

C'mon lottery don't let me down

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Drouin weber price

 

[KingTux]

1) Edmonton
2) Toronto
3) Winnipeg
4) Florida
5) Colorado
6) Calgary

 

[hockeyguy1967]

oh no!!!!!

lol.

so delusional. I'll never understand how fans of the worst teams in the league think their team is chock full of elite players.

• You are ignoring content by this member. Show Ignored Content 1967

 

[joe dirte]

• You are ignoring content by this member. Show Ignored Content 1967

hahaha. deluded in more ways than one it seems....

can't you follow through on THIS????

 

[kittiecarlyle]

Matthews, Marner, Rielly

Hard to get down to just 3 players, Nylander and Kapanen have to be in the mix, no?

 

[JustJokinenAround]

Charlie Conway, Jack, and Reggie Dunlop

 

[Tweed]

Delete.

I guess the players have to all be from the same team, as inferred by OP's choices?

Don't answer that, this really is an off-season thread that slipped through the cracks.

 

[pkunit]

Donato, Pastrnak, McAvoy

 

[The Moose is Loose]

McDavid, Draisaitl, Klefbom very easy. You get the best player in the game, another #1C, and a top pairing D-man with a lot of potential (always been a big Klefbom supporter- think he'll be a 1D someday).

2nd is the leafs (I'd prefer Marner). Hard to pass up a future top 10 C, a likely elite RW (Marner) or a 1st line RW (Nylander), and a likely 1D.

3rd I'll go with the Jets. Again getting a future top 10 C, an elite RW, and a top pairing guy that also has a lot of potential. Lower than Klefbom and Rielly imo.

 

[Nuusku]

Do they come with their current contracts? If not, I'll take the McDavid trio. If they do, It's Matthews or Scheifele trio for me.

 

[zizbuka]

Sigh. Drai played less games, if you.are not taking that in consideration then Matthews is 85th best offensive player in NHL. Why do Leaf fans have to ruin every single thread on these boards?

There's something about a pot and a kettle with this post..........

 

[JPeeper]

I knew Calgary trio would get underrated, but Hamilton is the best d-man in that entire list and Monahan is the 2nd best goalscorer on it.

Not saying I choose them first, but they are way deadlier than people are giving them credit for.

 

[HenrikW]

If Klefbom bounces back from his shoulder surgery I would pick Oilers, but as good as McDavid is it's tough to justify a trio without a defensemen that belongs on a 1st PP unit.

If Reilly can be as efficient next season as he was this season I'd go with Toronto as a back up option.

Winnipeg has the same problem as Oilers, Trouba isn't particulary amazing. I would take the Panthers trio ahead of them, Huberdeau is fairly mediocre in the company though.

Flames trio is interesting but if I were building a team around 3 player I would want a true Elite 1C, Monahan is servicable but not fantastic.

This season alone Avs would win, if Barrie could be considered young. But it's a one shot wonder until proven otherwise.

 

[DaJackal]

I knew Calgary trio would get underrated, but Hamilton is the best d-man in that entire list and Monahan is the 2nd best goalscorer on it.

Not saying I choose them first, but they are way deadlier than people are giving them credit for.

I strongly disagree on this one. Laine, McDavid and MacKinnon have been better goal scorers this season by a fair margin, and I'd add Matthews ahead of Monahan too.

That Calgary trio is impressive, but I still think that out of those 6 trios it is the last. And in my mind it's not even especially close.

 

[joe dirte]

McDavid, Draisaitl, Klefbom very easy. You get the best player in the game, another #1C, and a top pairing D-man with a lot of potential (always been a big Klefbom supporter- think he'll be a 1D someday).

2nd is the leafs (I'd prefer Marner). Hard to pass up a future top 10 C, a likely elite RW (Marner) or a 1st line RW (Nylander), and a likely 1D.

3rd I'll go with the Jets. Again getting a future top 10 C, an elite RW, and a top pairing guy that also has a lot of potential. Lower than Klefbom and Rielly imo.

yeah I wonder why not Marner myself. i guess they had to give the Oilers a chance.

high on Klefbom??? he's pretty bad. hes had one decent season, and it wasnt that great.

 

[Satire]

I would probably go with the Edmonton line up but sub out Klef for Nurse. Klef is the better player now when not injured but I think Nurse will be the better player overall.

I think Winnepegs line up is arguably more balanced. Followed closely by Toronto's.