No, the defense was bad in that series. Chara was sick and that opened a huge hole in the D. Several instances where many of our defensemen were out of position and off their game. Thank god for Horton and Ryder.
Who was more deserving of the Conn Smythe?
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No, the defense was bad in that series. Chara was sick and that opened a huge hole in the D. Several instances where many of our defensemen were out of position and off their game. Thank god for Horton and Ryder.
And saying Roloson was better than Thomas is a sick joke. Smith bailed the Lightning out in that series multiple times How many minutes did Tuukka play again?
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Look who he was paired with though. It's hard enough to play your own spot, let alone make up for defensively challenged partner who's giving away the puck on the freaking goal line, FFS. But yeah, it was all on Seidenberg...
Neely08
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Well, you don't watch the games either, Dojji. So it's harder for you to appreciate what Bergeron does, and where he goes when the B's don't have possession when listening to the radio. You're not impressed? That's ok, I'm in good company, as he was nominated and indeed received the Selke trophy. Further, when someone like Sidney Crosby calls him a "defensive monster" your personal opinion means jack and squat. And, jack just left town.
Neely08
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Defense never gets the glory, and never will.
It's frightening to think of the Bruins w/o big Z.
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Thomas was fantastic in those playoffs. He didn't win every game for Boston but that really isn't the measure that matters. He didn't lose any games for them, that's huge.
I chose Bergeron. Just as good offensively and ridiculously consistent and sound defensively.
I chose Bergeron. Just as good offensively and ridiculously consistent and sound defensively.
Exactly. Consistent, produces, one of the team leaders that kept the team together, best defensive player in the playoffs, best plus/minus in the playoffs, best faceoff man in the playoffs ( 60.2 percent ).
Krejci was a force offensively after the Montreal series and his 4 GW goals help close the gap. But Bergeron was just better all around and more consistent all playoffs long.
Over the volcano
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Uhh....what?
Tim Thomas had the season & playoff run of a lifetime. Simply phenomenal. Without him the Bruins don't even make the playoffs never mind win the whole thing.
doc5hole
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I can't disagree with that answer. I hate the question because, when a team wins the Cup, it's impossible to reward one player without feeling remorse toward another, then another, then another. The right guy won it, but who in the world would ever have had Krejci leading the playoffs in goals? Goals! That's unbelievable. I don't care that he didn't score as many in four rounds as Reg Leach scored in three in '76, he outproduced his peers in a hyper-defensive climate. I'll take a team of Bergerons over a team of Krejcis any day, but the Bruins don't win the Cup without an overdose of both players. Krejci's playoffs were more rollercoaster than Bergy's -- go figure -- but his contribution was every bit as essential. More? Not in my mind, but his accomplishment was a tangible superlative that was key to putting Boston over the top. His OT goal in Game 2 at Philly was the backbreaker in that series and was clutch coming from a guy whose injury cost the Bruins their series against the Flyers in 2010. The 2011 finals -- and the whole 2011-12 season, for that matter -- proved how essential Horton is to Krejci, but Krej stepped up in the 2011 playoffs to a startling (probably never to be seen again) height and is deserving of the nod.
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What still impresses me were reports that right from the start of the Philly series the Flyers were not just hitting Krejci at every opportunity but verbally threatening him as well. And he responded by making them his *******. That was one of the sweetest parts of the entire Stanley Cup run.
But you know, as you and others point out, every single Bruin made at least one key contribution to that Stanley Cup. Even Kaberle, who people love to mock, blocked a shot heading for an open net in Game 7 of the Tampa series. That one play could have been the end of the road for the Bruins. The PK efforts by Paille and Campbell were ridiculous, especially in the Vancouver series. People like to complain that Lucic didn't have a good playoff, but by God he made more than a few critical plays (who passed to Horton for the Game 7 winner vs. Montreal?). The list goes on and on... every member of the Bruins could have his own personal highlight reel of those games.
To me, that's what made that team and that Cup so very special. Tim Thomas was great and deserved the Conn Smythe, but it wasn't just "starring Tim Thomas and a cast of thousands," it was a full-roster effort.
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That's why he's known (at least in my house) as "Noted Flyer killer David Krejci."
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You're right. Defense is barely rewarded except from coaches, teamates and opponents!
Bruins D is average w/o Chara.
He is one if not the toughest D to play against. Before the game, opponents are already thinking! That is how huge he is.
Originally Posted by BruinsBtn
I disagree. Price and Roloson were both better. I don't even think Price can be debated, Thomas was bad in that series.
Uhh....what?
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TT highlights video is right on. He was even more phenomenal than in my memories.
Nobody is perfect, but these saves were huge. Now my memories were that alot of these saves were clutch and at imprtant moments.
No keeper are perfect, but needs to be better than opponents keeper, make huge saves at crucial moments, and win games (more possible) by themselves. TT did this and more. He had no match for the Conn Smyth, and pretending so is
I can also see how certain players were oftenly in trouble and made bad turnovers. Others not that much! Some players would have been in HUGE minus +- w/o Thomas.
Again Thanks Thomas for SC 2011 playoff run and thanks to the whole team!
I disagree. Price and Roloson were both better. I don't even think Price can be debated, Thomas was bad in that series.
Uhh....what?
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TT highlights video is right on. He was even more phenomenal than in my memories.
Nobody is perfect, but these saves were huge. Now my memories were that alot of these saves were clutch and at imprtant moments.
No keeper are perfect, but needs to be better than opponents keeper, make huge saves at crucial moments, and win games (more possible) by themselves. TT did this and more. He had no match for the Conn Smyth, and pretending so is
I can also see how certain players were oftenly in trouble and made bad turnovers. Others not that much! Some players would have been in HUGE minus +- w/o Thomas.
Again Thanks Thomas for SC 2011 playoff run and thanks to the whole team!
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Neely08
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Not me. He was the biggest question mark for me up front going in. Could he stay healthy? Could he produce when the checking got tighter, and the hits came w/ a bit more stank and intent on them? Well, he did, and no one can take it away from him.
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Krejci was probably the team's MVP for the second and third rounds combined, but wasn't anywhere in the discussion in the other two rounds (even with solid point totals in the final).
