Discussion in 'Soccer' started by Wrigley, Jun 5, 2016.
Italy got their call 4 years later against Australia
And I said "one of the worst German sides", not the worst
Careca's goal against France in 86 just might be my favorite World Cup goal ever, just love that buildup.
That's a good question, I'd place much of the blame on Scolari's negative tactics that relied on the technical superiority of his attackers to suffice. He was ultimately effective and triumphed at a weak tourney; but that's not the sort of play that gets in the best of all time discussion in football.
The magyars revolutionary attacking play deserves to be mentionedas one of the best of all time. The truly spectacular 70, 82 & 86 Brazilians and their breath taking build up structure deserves it, as do the great sides who prevented those 80s squads from achieving the ultimate triumph. The total football orange machine of the 70s deserves should be in this conversation; as should the 72 west german side who perfected the dutch innovations. Spain 08-12 deserves it for becoming the first team to threepeat on the international stages, despite their oft listless & bland play.
Brazil 2002 were deserving champions...beneficial referree'ing not withstanding...who earned the honor of being the last Brazilian WC winners, but they were not reaching new levels of greatness the way those teams in my previous paragraph did. That's why they don't deserve to be in the greatest of all time, not because they were bad and lucky, but because these other teams hit such amazing heights of greatness.
They scored a lot of goals numerically, but they didn't score enough goals like this:
I do wonder if they break through the African glass celing and get through to the semis if they don't blow the game against Italy in the final minute. They could have beaten Spain and Bulgaria too. Of course Baggio had one of the most magical tournament runs ever...until the final penalty kick.
The best international team ever is.....
.....the best international team ever!
Oh and you don't have the right to disagree by the way
Cameroon 1990 was a pretty solid team. Too bad they couldn't close out England.
Nigeria 98 looked great going forward but was a completely catastrophic in defense and goal.
in this sense I totally agree with you. Indeed the build up to goals and flow of the game was different. In many ways Brazil 02 did win because of sheer individual brilliance and star power. So I can live with that. But with that said, a more attractive football just because of a little more passing and more triangles doesn't negate an actual champion. Just saying.....and yes sure Brazil 02 didn't have this total football buildup for a goal, but they were no Real Madrid winning the CL this year equivalent either...they played well as a team.
Ajax Feyenoord come Holland 74= #1