you can use the cups argument for bowman but it is a strawman argument for Q. you pick and choose times that benefits your opinions on the team even when it isnt a reality. really hurts your im smarter then everyone image you try to portray on here.
so again nothing of substance from you..yawn..oh man now your just trying to cover for your buddy. this is sad.
living in Milwaukee...sorry had to lol...Wait, what am I getting called out for?
nothing chihawk10 contradicting himself
living in Milwaukee...sorry had to lol...
where you at now...Nashville???? lol...Haha, I actually moved but haven’t updated my location
where you at now...Nashville???? lol...
you just tried to bash me in your post...i dont think i need to respond to you calling me a Q homer and you saying that you judge Q and bowman equally when i very clearly laid out the ChiHawk10 does not do so.so again nothing of substance from you..yawn..
I have better arguments with my 9 year old over Pokemon' than with you....
You are a Q homer...a pathetic one at that....you just tried to bash me in your post...i dont think i need to respond to you calling me a Q homer and you saying that you judge Q and bowman equally when i very clearly laid out the ChiHawk10 does not do so.
You are a Q homer...a pathetic one at that....
I can list Bowman's failures, you have yet to list/admit to your boy Q's...
iv done this for you before. iv bashed keith on the powerplay, iv bashed playing manning, i bashed not sitting kunitz etc.... you only see what you want.You are a Q homer...a pathetic one at that....
I can list Bowman's failures, you have yet to list/admit to your boy Q's...
JFC, it's like talking to a rock. Except the bonus with a rock, they can't respond with stupid **** all the time.
Read my post above where I explained how I'm not contradicting myself. Here's a more in depth explanation @ChiHawk21 since apparently you can't understand the difference.
Bowman rebuilt a team(an elite team multiple times) that Q coached to 3 Cups. They're equals in that regard. The difference is... the league didn't change in a way where Bowman has to change how he GMs. He just needs to continue to draft good players, sign good UFA contracts, and make more positive trades than negative ones. The same things he has always done, and did for 3 Cups winning teams. And he did those things very well for 7 years. Or do you disagree? His job is made harder now, by age catching up to his players sooner than he expected. Guys who should be great players on solid contracts are mediocre players on bad contracts. You can't predict that. So now the team is struggling because they lack the elite talent they used to have, but don't have the money to bring more elite talent in(they have to draft it and develop it, and sign it to ELCs.) Something he's in the process of doing. The salary cap is intended to do exactly this to a team. Exactly what you're seeing now with the Hawks.
Q, on the other hand, needed to evolve how he coached, evolve how he taught things, evolve how he did things, and evolve how his team played, to fit the direction the game was headed, and the new style of play that the majority of the teams in the league are using. Where Q refused to do that... Bowman doesn't have to change anything like that. Which is why Q won't get a pass, and Bowman will. Now do you understand how it's not a contradiction? (doubtful) Q dug his own grave with his stubbornness to not change and adapt to the new NHL.
you just tried to bash me in your post...i dont think i need to respond to you calling me a Q homer and you saying that you judge Q and bowman equally when i very clearly laid out the ChiHawk10 does not do so.
theres no part of either of you that can admit what just happened? you both think there is zero contradiction? i dont believe you can think that.
JFC, it's like talking to a rock. Except the bonus with a rock, they can't respond with stupid **** all the time.
Read my post above where I explained how I'm not contradicting myself. Here's more for you.
Bowman rebuilt a team(an elite team multiple times) that Q coached to 3 Cups. They're equals in that regard. The difference is... the league didn't change in a way where Bowman has to change how he GMs. He just needs to continue to draft good players, sign good UFA contracts, and make more positive trades than negative ones. The same things he has always done, and did for 3 Cups winning teams. And he did those things very well for 7 years. Or do you disagree?
Q, on the other hand, needed to evolve how he coached, evolve how he taught things, evolve how he did things, and evolve how his team played, to fit the direction the game was headed, and the new style of play that the majority of the teams in the league are using. Where Q refused to do that... Bowman doesn't have to change anything like that. Which is why Q won't get a pass, and Bowman will. Now do you understand how it's not a contradiction? (doubtful) Q dug his own grave with his stubbornness to not change and adapt to the new NHL.
That makes absolutely zero sense, so Q has to change but Stan doesn’t? Stan has destroyed this team these past 3 years and as we can see now the team is just garbage and it was not even Q’s fault the team is playing like this. JC Stan’s boy has stunk up the joint with better players on this team since we have two D back from injuries. If Stan is staying he sure hell has to change what he’s doing because all he has done is draft well and gone ahead and traded these drafted players away or signed core players to huge contracts that he can’t retain those drafted players anymore.
TT first rounder gone due to stupidity
Hartman gone
Danault gone
Panarin(equivalent to 1st overall gone)
Schmaltz(gone)
Whatever he has done well in free agency and drafting he has destroyed, this guy can’t be trusted with trades and giving money out. He’s too soft, he doesn’t know how to negotiate. Also why does he only trade with a handful of GM’s around the league if he is so “respected”? Mark my words he leaves Chicago he’s not getting a job anywhere else because everyone knows the core carried all those teams and he only had to make minor tweaks and when he was doing that the team was successful, as soon as he tried to make big trades the success went down the drain.
Let’s not mention his horrible cap management, it has been catestrophic to say the least...
I will take your word for it, I guess, I only see what you post..if you stated any of that then I missed it..regardless, this has been talked to death and there just is no point anymore..iv done this for you before. iv bashed keith on the powerplay, iv bashed playing manning, i bashed not sitting kunitz etc.... you only see what you want.
as I said, here is one of the other two to the rescue!!!My God. A second one that doesn't understand. Color me shocked that it was this person...
Game passed Bowman by would be 100% valid but his drafting and Euro free agent signing showcase that he knows were it is going. Everyone he is drafted or signed have been great skaters that can play a two way game. Skill and speed are the new NHL and his moves reflect that.
Note: Manning and Kunitz do not reflect this but I don’t believe they were ever going to be part of the future (look at their deals).
They can? Could've fooled me. While not everyone is a medical-waste dumpster fire in the backed most of the guys on the roster right now wouldn't know defense if their lives depended on it.
My God. A second one that doesn't understand. Color me shocked that it was this person...
Yes, Q has to adapt to the changes of the game on the ice. Stan needs to only do the same things he did to build/rebuild the Cup teams... sign good contracts, draft well, bring in good UFAs on good contracts. JC has had a month, mid-season to fix things. Significant progress takes longer than that, when players are unlearning 10 years of doing things a certain way. Stan has made some mistakes, but mark my words, the salary cap has done this to the team. Not Stan. It is working how it's intended.
Being "soft" has nothing to do with anything.
He trades with people who are willing to trade with him.
Minor tweaks? That's revisionist history by someone who has it out for Stan. His minor tweaks involved losing half a dozen players after each Cup to the cap...
no self awareness.as I said, here is one of the other two to the rescue!!!
no self awareness?? you call out those of us that like each others posts and not in a good way, but this is self awareness?? lol okay....this is called hypocrisy...no self awareness.
You have the self-awareness of a ****ing potato. Just keep posting, so I can keep making you look dumber and dumber with each one. I'm enjoying it. Anyone with 1/4 of a brain would have read my posts and chalked it up as a loss a long time ago. Not you. You're too dumb to realize when you're WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY out of your league.
bowmans job is to predict the play of the aging players and send them out or make sure someone is there to fill there spot. his job is to sign good contracts, its to make more positive trades that negative ones. has he done this since the cups? i dont know how you can say hes done this since the 2016 season. why are you not calling for his head? will you understand that it is a contradiction (doubtful). in your opinion they have had the same timeline. good through the cups and fell off. you are giving one an excuse and blaming the other. Q cant win without a good roster. It starts with bowman and q fell on the sword for him. that hasnt worked in bowmans favor and may end up costing him his job earlier then predicted.