Who gets fired/shipped first?

[Menzinger]

I wouldn’t expect anybody to be fired this season - and absolutely zero chance of somebody like Dubas/Babs/Shanahan; maybe one of the assistant coaches if Dubas is particularly upset with special teams.

If they go out in the first round again, I suspect one of the “secondary” assets on the team (like say AJ or Kadri) might get traded for a RHD but even that likely is no guarantee given the fact they’ve got guys like Liljegren and Sandin about to graduate from the Marlies

 

[Al14]

If you’re getting rid of the assistants, you might as well get rid of Babcock too (unless he gets some say on who the replacements are). He has shown a willingness to ignore any of the pieces Lou and Dubas have given him if they aren’t to his liking.

Babcock having to approve of his assistants just ensures poor choices IMHO. Babcock won't consider any candidates, as assistants, that may be able to take his job. JMHO.

 

[Morgs]

Nylander has been playing great? He’s not worth his contract. Kadri has been crap since he’s got married. Both should be gone

Nylander is more than worth his contract, and Kadri has been basically the same 5v5 player as last year, except better defensively. His PP effectiveness has gone down, that's for sure.

 

[Swedish Gretzky]

Your post...your post is what is most likely gone to the depths of HF Boards limbo...The unrealistic expectations of fans are gonna get someone in Leaf management fired? Sufferin' snakes in Ireland...not bloody likely.

Don't take this board or yourself too seriously bud. Its not good for your blood pressure.
Just wanted to see where peoples opinions are.

You should go for a walk

 

[Al14]

Nylander has been playing great? He’s not worth his contract. Kadri has been crap since he’s got married. Both should be gone

Both need to be sacrificed for D depth IMHO. Forward depth is too top heavy with skill and money spent. Dubas needs to balance that out. JMHO.

 

[Menzinger]

Nylander has been playing great? He’s not worth his contract. Kadri has been crap since he’s got married. Both should be gone

He’s been great for the last twenty games. Basically since he shook off his scoring slump that started his season.

 

[hector morrison]

Don't take this board or yourself too seriously bud. Its not good for your blood pressure.
Just wanted to see where peoples opinions are.

You should go for a walk

I was kidding...mostly! Because of the pay Babs gets,because of this being Dubas initial crack at running things,because Shanny hand picked them both...no one is goin' anywhere!

 

[Advanced stats]

It's inevitable that at least one of the management team is gone in the offseason, based on the bad play of the Leafs and what media and fans have been predicting.

Ironic, given that Leafs are still on an over 100pt pace season again.

Whos most likely gone?

Smith gets poached to be a head coach elsewhere.

Zaitsev + picks gets traded for picks.

 

[King Mapes]

Top 5 team = bad?

 

[Jozay]

GMs have been fired for far less and they aren't paying Dubas millions. DJ is gone regardless so I selected him.

Only thing Dubas has done wrong is choose Sparks to be the backup. Dont think a GM has ever been fired for that.

 

[Menzinger]

Top 5 team = bad?

Story of this fan base this season.

the best Leafs team in 20 years and people are acting like we’re the Oilers

 

[Kiwi]

The obvious guys on the team we should be looking to move are Zaitsev (please God, he's awful and paid forever) Marleau (unfortunately he has a full NMC) and Brown (he's making to much for a depth/4th line forward with our cap situation)

In management I'd imagine our defensive systems and special teams assistant coaches should probably be looked at as well

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

Don't pay attention to the leafs at all but I'm just curious what opinions about Babcock are in Leaf nation? I have a somewhat biased opinion so I'm interested

 

[Durrr]

This is a bad, bad thread. You'd think the Leafs were a basement team, they'll move the players they need to for cap relief, otherwise no one is getting fired.

 

[Al14]

Story of this fan base this season.

the best Leafs team in 20 years and people are acting like we’re the Oilers

So, there's no room for improvement, and, far less embarrassment like last night?

Our Leafs have added Tavares and Muzzin, and, have subtracted supposed scrubs like Bozak, Polak, Komarov and Martin, yet, it's looking like we may end up with less points than last season!

There's nothing wrong with having higher expectations. With being up against the cap next season, we may end up being mired in above average mediocrity with no chance at a Cup, unless, things start to look like progress is truly being made. JMHO.

 

[56 Years No Cup]

Top 5 team = bad?

Story of this fan base this season.

the best Leafs team in 20 years and people are acting like we’re the Oilers

With this roster expectations have risen. Relative regular season success is not the measuring stick now.

Have playoff success and we can talk.

 

[Legendary]

Babs/assistants
Johnsson/Kap/brown
Zaitsieve
Kadri
Nylander

 

[SeaOfBlue]

I think Kadri, but that is more to re-allocate cap.

You are not trading Zaitsev without getting another top 4 RD in return (directly or indirectly), and chances are, you are paying a similar (or far greater) amount than you are paying Zaitsev (or you will be very soon).

 

[56 Years No Cup]

Don't pay attention to the leafs at all but I'm just curious what opinions about Babcock are in Leaf nation? I have a somewhat biased opinion so I'm interested

The players are sick of him IMO. They have tuned him out.

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

The players are sick of him IMO. They have tuned him out.

Really? That seems way too familiar

 

[Trapper]

The choice has been made to keep Matthews/JT/Marner/Nylander.

You can’t keep every single forward and not address the D. Especially if you are losing Gardiner and Hainsey to UFA.
If Marleau can’t be moved, you have another big problem for a year.

Obviously you will start with Brown and work your way up but we must improve defense and get better in our own zone. It’s imperative.

So you want to keep your first tier of favourites to drive the bus, it’s going to cost you the 2nd tier.

 

[56 Years No Cup]

Really? That seems way too familiar

I live in Windsor /Essex where there's lots of Wings fans. I have heard the same. Babs is a coach, like Harbaugh, that players can only stomach for a limited time.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

They are still top 5 in the NHL NOBODY is getting fired

 

[Jozay]

Don't pay attention to the leafs at all but I'm just curious what opinions about Babcock are in Leaf nation? I have a somewhat biased opinion so I'm interested

People have problems with the system he employs, how he utilizes our players, and the team having problems with starting on time.

 

[hullsy47]

I live in Windsor /Essex where there's lots of Wings fans. I have heard the same. Babs is a coach, like Harbaugh, that players can only stomach for a limited time.

yes I live in windsor too
I heard him to called SPARKY
referred to legendary sparky Anderson
loyal to veterans and stubborn till the game passed him by