Who do you take UFA - McDavid for 4 years, or MacKinnon for 7 years?

[Mighty Makar]

What are we trying to do here? McDavid is the best player in the league. We all know this.

I’m not sure why there’s a need to bring up three playoff games from MacKinnon’s 18-year old rookie season to add weight to the argument.

He’s pissed that the Avs own the Bruins as of late.

 

[OilCanada92]

McDavid, because he might still re-sign in 4 years.

Or sign MacKinnon today and then sign McDavid for the final 3 years of MacKinnon's contract 4 years later.

 

[Emell]

MacKinnon. More chances, plus...

McDavid is fantastic but his individual success has yet to show it can be the driver for a team’s success.

MacKinnon is much the opposite. He has a notably weaker argument for better overall player but has shown to consistently drive team success as his individual success occurs.

I know it’s a team sport, but your centerpiece is a huge part of that. Having MVP statistical seasons while not sniffing the playoffs is a red flag

Especially in a situation where you have only four shots with them. Not only is it nearly double the chances more significant, but I feel MacKinnon has been better at elevating his team success relative to his individual success even as a worse player in general.

My opinion, of course.

 

[bobholly39]

I'd easily take mcdaivd on my team, especially if that means running eichel as 2c

Oloffson-Mcdavid-Reinhart
Skinner-Eichel-Cozens

I know this is going off on a bit of a tangent - but I get the feeling Eichel would not be happy playing as a 2C, even if it means he has McDavid as a teammate. Compare that to Malkin who played behind Crosby his whole career, somehow, i just don't think Eichel would like that..

 

[KevinRedkey]

If both players want to sign with my team, I'll go ahead and assume I'm a powerhouse team to begin with. Maybe my 1C just retired and I need a new one or something. Either way - McDavid.

 

[TheGuiminator]

MacKinnon when facing elimination:

5 GP: 0 G, 1 A, -7

Adding in the games where the Avs can eliminate another team:

7 GP: 0 G, 4 A, -10

These stats suggest that Mackinnon is not a clutch player, which wasn’t my point.

 

[Bluesguru]

Door Number 2 that has Big Mac and Fries.

 

[TheRarestDangles]

Lol people are actually picking McDavid here? He's the best player in the world, but he isn't THAT much better than MacKinnon. I take it people haven't watched Mack in the playoffs enough.

 

[McVespa99]

MacKinnon. More chances, plus...

McDavid is fantastic but his individual success has yet to show it can be the driver for a team’s success.

MacKinnon is much the opposite. He has a notably weaker argument for better overall player but has shown to consistently drive team success as his individual success occurs.

I know it’s a team sport, but your centerpiece is a huge part of that. Having MVP statistical seasons while not sniffing the playoffs is a red flag

Especially in a situation where you have only four shots with them. Not only is it nearly double the chances more significant, but I feel MacKinnon has been better at elevating his team success relative to his individual success even as a worse player in general.

My opinion, of course.

1 That is BS. Its a team game. I think there were other players that contributed to the teams improvement as well..
2 No its not.
3 Your opinion is wrong..

 

[The Abusement Park]

2014

Game 6 @ MIN (down 3-2): 0-0-0, -3
Game 7 vs. MIN (tied 3-3): 0-0-0, -3

2018

Game 5 @ NSH (down 3-1): 0-1-1, +0
Game 6 vs. NSH (down 3-2): 0-0-0, -3

2019

Game 5 @ CGY (up 3-1): 0-3-3, +0
Game 6 vs. SJS (down 3-2): 0-0-0, -2
Game 7 @ SJS (tied 3-3): 0-0-0, +1

2014 he was 18, seems a bit unfair.

2018 Nashville was just a far far better team than us.

2019 game 7 Mack was playing with a separated shoulder and still would've had an assist if not for Landy getting the tying goal called back.

Mack has more than proved himself as a fantastic playoff performer.

 

[Ryan Michaels]

McDavid. People worry too much about years down the line. If he comes to your team you have the best player in the world for 4 years, if you can't convince him to stay after that considering A) he picked you once and B) you should've found alot of success in that time, then what the hell difference is 3 more seasons of MacKinnon going to make?

People always fret about this and it's silly. If you're worried about a guy walking in 5 years you may as well sell everyone over 22 on your team and start over.

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

Imagine blaming the guy for having MVP like seasons for not having team success.

In my opinion, that’s stupid.

 

[Bankerguy]

On the Canucks, i'd take McDavid.

Pettersson Mcdavid Boeser
Jt. Miller Horvat Toffoli

That top 6 is probably best in the league, or at least top 5

 

[Spilot23]

Imagine blaming the guy for having MVP like seasons for not having team success.

In my opinion, that’s stupid.

That wouldn't happen if Mcdavid was that good. He needs to top 175pts IMO

 

[Emell]

1 That is BS. Its a team game. I think there were other players that contributed to the teams improvement as well..
2 No its not.
3 Your opinion is wrong..

Compelling argument /s

 

[Emell]

Imagine blaming the guy for having MVP like seasons for not having team success.

In my opinion, that’s stupid.

Thanks for the flagrant mischaracterization of what I said

 

[Artorius Horus T]

MacKinnon. More chances, plus...

McDavid is fantastic but his individual success has yet to show it can be the driver for a team’s success.

MacKinnon is much the opposite. He has a notably weaker argument for better overall player but has shown to consistently drive team success as his individual success occurs.

I know it’s a team sport, but your centerpiece is a huge part of that. Having MVP statistical seasons while not sniffing the playoffs is a red flag

Especially in a situation where you have only four shots with them. Not only is it nearly double the chances more significant, but I feel MacKinnon has been better at elevating his team success relative to his individual success even as a worse player in general.

My opinion, of course.

I agree with you.

 

[BlueBaron]

It would be special to have McD but that certainty is invaluable, you might get McDavid 4 years later.

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

Thanks for the flagrant mischaracterization of what I said

There’s nothing to mischaracterized. You said it’s a giant red flag that he can have MVP seasons and a lack of team success.

That’s dumb.

I guess when Mackinnon was topping 60 point seasons, could we say that he wasn’t a driver for team success since his team stunk and by proxy, he stunk?

 

[avsfan9]

I’d take 7 years of MacKinnon over 7 years of McDavid. I really like MacKinnon.

 

[The Abusement Park]

I’d take 7 years of MacKinnon over 7 years of McDavid. I really like MacKinnon.

No chance I’d take Mack over McDavid.

 

[wetcoast]

We can all agree that McKinnon is a fantastic player, probably in the 2nd-4th best player in the league who is on a great contract. Yet, there will never be a circumstance where I choose him over McDavid

If I get both players for the term listed then lose them then I take Mac obviously.

Voted as such.

 

[Emell]

There’s nothing to mischaracterized. You said it’s a giant red flag that he can have MVP seasons and a lack of team success.

That’s dumb.

I guess when Mackinnon was topping 60 point seasons, could we say that he wasn’t a driver for team success since his team stunk and by proxy, he stunk?

So mischaracterizing it then

Thanks, you do well to prove the lengths of dishonestly you’ll go in every discussion you’re a part of

The irony being that you still do well to demonstrate my point even as you try dishonest framing devices on MacKinnon’s lack of success

In the end, you still end up agreeing with my argument. You just try and mock it because you don’t like the implications

 

[treple13]

As a Flames fan I voted McDavid in order to spite the Oilers

 

[Nabrules]

I don’t think so. Does MacKinnon have a bum knee?

Huh, even on "bum knee" Mcdavid easily outscores Mackinnon LOL