An ‘06 D, and near 2, 3 would make teams look elsewhere first imo. The GMs of the other teams with Smith & Smyth might cut Oake’s throat for a return near what you suggest.
Konnor Smith is a top two or three defenceman on a team. Derek Smyth and Blake Smith are not. I don’t think people outside of Peterborough know how valuable he is. The Petes would not accept a rookie defenceman and only a 4th, 5th and 6th for him. They definitely wound want either a 2025 or 2026 2nd and 3rd in a deal like that. When you look at what comparable defenceman he is worth far more than you suggest.
I think you’re going to be disappointed by the Konnor Smith return. I would gladly take a prospect like Brayden Turley and a 3rd for Smith.
For NB, he would be a four 5 on 5, and 6 on 5 late with opposing goalie pulled. The Battalion can really use a safety net for Nelson and net presence that can clear the crease with authority and efficiency. That might allow Nelson more time to gasp for air after a whistle rather than use energy wrestling after whistles.
I was pretty close. I thought they might get a 2nd and a 4th. They also managed to get a 6th. I felt as the weeks dragged on they might have had to trade him for a mid round draft as it appeared there was no interest in him.
I'd guess the history with his older brother in Kingston helped with the agreement
When the draft was a combination of 16 and 17 year olds players being drafted prior to the 2000 draft. Players drafted in the 1st round and all 16 year olds could not be traded. You were only allowed to select two 16 year old players in the first three rounds. 17 year olds and older who were not 1st round draft picks could be traded. In 1989 they changed the rules so Sault Ste Marie could trade Eric Lindros who refused to report to the Greyhounds. The window to trade them was and is still January 1 until the trade deadline. In 2000 the OHL changed the draft to allow all players to be drafted at 16 and the rules now allow four underages per team. They now allow 1st round players to be traded in two trade windows first in September for defected players and the January timeframe for any 1st rounder. but did not change them to allow 2-15 round 16 year olds to be traded.
Did you read my original post? I said I thought they might a 2nd and 4th. I was fairly close they also got 6th. With the fact no deal had happened in over a week I then thought the return would be a lot lower. I was wrong it was not.
With Lockhart now moved to Oshawa, what other “insight” can you offer. You’re 0/2 now on Peterborough OA trades so far this year. Which player isn’t moving next?
Easy now.......IMO if the Petes had their choice then Gauvreau would have been traded at this point , not Lockhart.
He sounds like a broken record. Just cut and paste
I think the Petes can get more than an overage defenceman for Sam Mayer. I think they could get a 17 year old defenceman plus a 2nd and a 3rd or a 4th for him. I don’t expect the Petes to trade anymore than Owen Beck and Sam Mayer. They will only trade Konnor Smith if they get an offer they cannot refuse. They will keep enough of their veteran players to remain competitive.Easy now.......IMO if the Petes had their choice then Gauvreau would have been traded at this point , not Lockhart.
Problem is that there is no market for Gauvreau other than giving him away which Oke would rather not do.
I'm sure that Oke and the coaches didn't feel great about sitting a 20 year old player each game this season (one who helped them win a championship last year), otherwise they wouldn't have dealt Lockhart and the DEFINITELY would not have dealt him to Oshawa
Who is most likely to be dealt at the deadline?
Beck and Mayer at the very least and possibly Smith
The strength of the Petes this season has been defense and goaltending so with Mayer and possibly Smith being traded, the Petes will need the experience and solid defensive play that Gaurvreau brings.
Oke will likely get a serviceable OA Dman in the deal he does for Mayer. (Mancini - SAG, Hislop - GUE)
Post deadline the Petes defense could look like this:
OA Dman McCoy
Gauvreau Cameron
Woulds Velliaris
Ladds
What would it look like if Gauvreau was traded instead of Lockhart?
I like the plan going forward and that the less experienced guys on the Petes will be seeing a lot more ice-time after the trade deadline. Hopefully the Petes are in a position at the trade deadline where they've banked enough points and this young group can get some playoff experience as well.
I just don't know who is willing to pay the price to get him...
Just remember that it's fans who are posting the "price" on here. We have no idea what GM's are asking for or willing to take. Prices also fluctuate each year based on supply and demand. Carry on.
Every year or so there is always a shocking trade that gets fans attention. If a GM has the assets to burn he will try to out bid every other GM to get a player like Beck. If they consider him to be a player that helps put them over the top. Going by the face off % if correct it's a stat that will garner a hell of a lot of attention. Look good in a Ranger uni too!
