I think Edmonton's roster is a mess, too easy to play against. They have to grow a set of balls and start moving some of their prized pieces to make that team better. I think Calgary would be better off landing Hanifin, they already have a one two of Monahan and Bennett which is solid, they have some decent winger prospects, kinda thin on D. Calgary needs two more years of sucking and they'll be set, Oilers need to make some big bold moves and they could turn that ship around fast, but they won't.
I think Edmonton's roster is a mess, too easy to play against. They have to grow a set of balls and start moving some of their prized pieces to make that team better. I think Calgary would be better off landing Hanifin, they already have a one two of Monahan and Bennett which is solid, they have some decent winger prospects, kinda thin on D. Calgary needs two more years of sucking and they'll be set, Oilers need to make some big bold moves and they could turn that ship around fast, but they won't.
NYVanfan
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could be anyone, at this point
if Colorado can put up 112 pts last year after a 67-pt pace season the year before ...anything's possible
if Colorado can put up 112 pts last year after a 67-pt pace season the year before ...anything's possible
NYVanfan
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this is Edm current lineup, from capgeek
CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Taylor Hall ($6.000m) / Ryan Nugent-Hopkins ($6.000m) / Jordan Eberle ($6.000m)
Benoit Pouliot ($4.000m) / Boyd Gordon ($3.000m) / Teddy Purcell ($4.500m)
David Perron ($3.813m) / Anton Lander ($0.600m) / Nail Yakupov ($0.925m)
Matt Hendricks ($1.850m) / Mark Arcobello ($0.600m) /
Jesse Joensuu ($0.950m) /
Luke Gazdic ($0.800m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Nikita Nikitin ($4.500m) / Mark Fayne ($3.625m)
Andrew Ference ($3.250m) / Jeff Petry ($3.075m)
Keith Aulie ($0.800m) / Martin Marincin ($0.730m)
GOALTENDERS
Viktor Fasth ($2.900m)
Ben Scrivens ($2.300m)
BUYOUTS
Eric Belanger ($0.000m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $60,217,500; BONUSES: $2,990,000
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $8,782,500
and this is Calgary's
CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Jiri Hudler ($4.000m) / Matt Stajan ($3.125m) / David Jones ($4.000m)
Mason Raymond ($3.150m) / Mikael Backlund ($1.500m) / Brian McGrattan ($0.750m)
Curtis Glencross ($2.550m) / Sean Monahan ($0.925m) /
Brandon Bollig ($1.250m) / Paul Byron ($0.600m) /
Johnny Gaudreau ($0.925m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Dennis Wideman ($5.250m) / Mark Giordano ($4.020m)
Ladislav Smid ($3.500m) / Deryk Engelland ($2.917m)
Kris Russell ($2.600m) / T.J. Brodie ($2.125m)
GOALTENDERS
Jonas Hiller ($4.500m)
Karri Ramo ($2.750m)
BUYOUTS
Shane O'Brien ($0.000m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $50,436,667; BONUSES: $1,775,000
CAP SPACE (19-man roster): $18,563,333
I just dont see us being near as bad as either, esp with Miller in net and our blueline, which even after losing Garrison has a top 4 better than any single guy on those clubs, save for Giordano
CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Taylor Hall ($6.000m) / Ryan Nugent-Hopkins ($6.000m) / Jordan Eberle ($6.000m)
Benoit Pouliot ($4.000m) / Boyd Gordon ($3.000m) / Teddy Purcell ($4.500m)
David Perron ($3.813m) / Anton Lander ($0.600m) / Nail Yakupov ($0.925m)
Matt Hendricks ($1.850m) / Mark Arcobello ($0.600m) /
Jesse Joensuu ($0.950m) /
Luke Gazdic ($0.800m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Nikita Nikitin ($4.500m) / Mark Fayne ($3.625m)
Andrew Ference ($3.250m) / Jeff Petry ($3.075m)
Keith Aulie ($0.800m) / Martin Marincin ($0.730m)
GOALTENDERS
Viktor Fasth ($2.900m)
Ben Scrivens ($2.300m)
BUYOUTS
Eric Belanger ($0.000m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $60,217,500; BONUSES: $2,990,000
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $8,782,500
and this is Calgary's
CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Jiri Hudler ($4.000m) / Matt Stajan ($3.125m) / David Jones ($4.000m)
Mason Raymond ($3.150m) / Mikael Backlund ($1.500m) / Brian McGrattan ($0.750m)
Curtis Glencross ($2.550m) / Sean Monahan ($0.925m) /
Brandon Bollig ($1.250m) / Paul Byron ($0.600m) /
Johnny Gaudreau ($0.925m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Dennis Wideman ($5.250m) / Mark Giordano ($4.020m)
Ladislav Smid ($3.500m) / Deryk Engelland ($2.917m)
Kris Russell ($2.600m) / T.J. Brodie ($2.125m)
GOALTENDERS
Jonas Hiller ($4.500m)
Karri Ramo ($2.750m)
BUYOUTS
Shane O'Brien ($0.000m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $50,436,667; BONUSES: $1,775,000
CAP SPACE (19-man roster): $18,563,333
I just dont see us being near as bad as either, esp with Miller in net and our blueline, which even after losing Garrison has a top 4 better than any single guy on those clubs, save for Giordano
We're not better.... Danny hasn't been as good with his injuries and Sedins overall have taken a step back, as well as Burrows... We're a team that can't score and I don't see how that's going to change? What has Vrbata done outside of the Yotes? Canucks roster got easier to play against and weaker on face offs and defensive play, I personally think Luongo > Miller so I don't think we're as good in net as last year either.
NYVanfan
Registered User
well, last year wasn't Luo the whole time, but i agree, goaltending shouldnt make a huge difference
its all about the sedins bouncing back and the kids having an impact
the D and G should be solid, so we have a shot at staying in games and giving the kids some structure (ie not getting blown out too much ...hopefully)
still, we may not be better than last year, but we should still be better than those teams
I see Phx/Dallas/SJ/Minny as the teams we'll be fighting with for the last PO spots
Dallas, SJS and Minny are much better than the Canucks, I don't see how this team is in talk for the playoffs, sounds like Oiler fans of the past talking about how this will be the year they make the playoffs. Sedins game has been sliding for a few seasons now, I don't think they bounce back at this stage in their careers, reminds me a lot of Naslund and I've said this since we signed them to those gross contracts.
I think Oilers forward group is better than ours but our d better than theirs, Calgary plays a hard game, the type of game that will push this team back, we lost our only grit in the top 6 with Kesler and never replaced it. This team is soft again, will have scoring issues as I don't see who will put the pucks in the net and our center and defensive play with the forward group is a bit concerning... Sedins, Vey, Bonino, Kassian, Vrbata aren't really defensive players and that makes up most of the top 9, outside of Kassian that's also a pretty soft group.... I don't see how we can really say we're better than the Oilers or Flames? We were on their level of suck last season with Kesler... Without Kesler I think we're closing that gap.
Horse McHindu
They call me Horse.....
I agree with this as well.
I don't see San Jose dropping nearly as much as people think, and I also think Dallas and Minnesota are both trending upwards........and are more than capable of upsetting the 'giants' of Chicago, Anaheim, LA, and St. Louis come playoff time.
Having said all that................I think there is hope for this Canucks team in terms of making the playoffs.
I am NOT sold on the Colorado Avalanche. At all. I think the loss of Stastny will hurt them more than people realize. O'Reilly and MacKinnon are both on the verge of superstardom, but the loss of Stastny will no longer shelter them, in terms of a veteran player taking on roles and responsibilities to shield the kids.
O'Reilly and MacKinnon will be expected to increase their roles and responsibilities this year, and as talented as they are, I think that's a little too much to ask of a 19 and 21-22 year old. Matt Duchene can only do so much, and I also think that Iggy's age will show even moreso this year.
I also think there are a lot of questions marks on D and in net, and I don't see the Avs getting the same level of consistency in net as they did last year (call me a bigot, but I almost never trust the pysche's of Russian goaltenders........and Varmalov does seem like a headcase).
My prediction is that the Canucks finish 8th this coming season, before bowing out in 5 games to one of St. Louis or Anaheim.
The principal sports rivalries are usually set by geography and frequent games more than anything -- they don't shift every year depending on the standings.
It will likely be the Alberta teams for a long while yet, no matter how good or bad anyone is.
It will likely be the Alberta teams for a long while yet, no matter how good or bad anyone is.
hackey
Oh Did I Offend You
So then Toronto has no rivalries? Edmonton? Calgary?
There are many ways to foster a rivalry.
banme*
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I feel like I've heard this before... Must have been sometime in the past 10 or so years over which Edmonton has been a total dog's breakfast.
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Hockey cliché that is rarely true -- those are the fleeting rivalries that lead to threads like this. It's not really a rivalry if you're searching for a new one every 2 years. The real ones are because of geography. When was the last time Calgary and Edmonton met in the playoffs? The Islanders and Rangers? The Yankees and Mets? The Steelers and Browns?
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I miss our Hawks rivalry....
Burrows top left over Crawford's shoulder...I will never forget that moment....
Burrows top left over Crawford's shoulder...I will never forget that moment....
me2
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me2
Go ahead foot
NYVanfan
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and Nashville just signed Ribiero and Roy ...
helps them, possibly making them a darkhorse for that #8 PO spot
helps them, possibly making them a darkhorse for that #8 PO spot
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