Paperbagofglory
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Hes a more physical version of Bure with a better defensive game. So almost a perfect hockey player, almost.
Well he has not gotten injured yet and has not hit his prime so your prediction is irrelevant. What happens when a play maker loses his speed? um he gets more assists and less goals and can still be successful?-I look at players most comparable to Mcdavid. He has played 2 complete seasons without missing a game in the worst division Ive ever seen and cant break 110 points. There are players that played in the 90's and 2000s and the point dropoff is small if any look at players like Joe Sakic and Jagr. When he gets injured like Bure, then what? Without his speed he is pretty average. For all the breakaways he gets and generates his finishing is bad. A player like Lemieux on the breakaway was unstoppable he wasnt getting shutdown by a goalie and everyone knew it.
-Bure is the best comparison. Injuries ruined Bure's career.
I believe it was button who said.
Vision of gretzky
hands of lemieux
speed of bure
Bobby Orr if he played Forward.
-I look at players most comparable to Mcdavid. He has played 2 complete seasons without missing a game in the worst division Ive ever seen and cant break 110 points. There are players that played in the 90's and 2000s and the point dropoff is small if any look at players like Joe Sakic and Jagr. When he gets injured like Bure, then what? Without his speed he is pretty average. For all the breakaways he gets and generates his finishing is bad. A player like Lemieux on the breakaway was unstoppable he wasnt getting shutdown by a goalie and everyone knew it.
-Bure is the best comparison. Injuries ruined Bure's career.
Most posts here from oiler fans are saying Bure. Does the comparison to Gilbert Perreault offend you as well? Maybe slow down and read a little more carefully.-4 Pages of threads and anyone but Oilers fans pretty much say Bure. How Mcdavid has all these great players intangibles like Oilers are claiming, yet, cant boatrace the field in points, especially when scoring is approaching a 20 year all time high, something is ironic, fishy, and funny at the same time. For comparison sake, Wayne Gretzky would put up 150 points per year in his prime right now. Mcdavid not so much. Bure is the best comparison.
-4 Pages of threads and anyone but Oilers fans pretty much say Bure. How Mcdavid has all these great players intangibles like Oilers are claiming, yet, cant boatrace the field in points, especially when scoring is approaching a 20 year all time high, something is ironic, fishy, and funny at the same time. For comparison sake, Wayne Gretzky would put up 150 points per year in his prime right now. Mcdavid not so much. Bure is the best comparison.
None of them are in their peak form which isWell why isn't Sidney Crosby putting up 120 points even the last three years?
He's still in his relative prime. So is Malkin. So is Ovechkin.
The fact is the game has changed, hitting 100+ today is like hitting 120 in the past.
The goalies have equipment three sizes too big and every coaching staff micro-analyzes every nuance to come up with strategies to keep scoring down.
The average 5/6 d-man today is better than he was 20 years ago. Either Crosby/Malkin/Ovy/Stamkos/Tavares all suck too or the fact is league wide it's simply harder to score.
I don't think it's a given Gretzky would score 150 in the modern league either.
Style =/= upside either. Wayne Gretzky has said stylistically he based his game on Bobby Clarke. That doesn't mean he wasn't way better than Bobby Clarke.
Pavel Bure and Pavel Datsyuk are comparisons that are nothing to scoff at either, Bure is probably the most exciting, electrifying hockey player ever, Datsyuk is perhaps the most skilled forward ever. A hybrid of the two with bigger size and better vision is a once in a lifetime player.
None of them are in their peak form which is
different then prime.
McDavid reminds me of no one. We have never seen a player that plays like him. We've seen certain players that have one element that McDavid does, but no one that has all. It's like trying to find a comparable for prime Ovechkin, you can't. This isn't to say that these players are better than everyone in history, it just means that these players strengths/styles are a very unique combination.
They are declining years for every player. They can still have dominant seasons but it isn't expected. And you don't know the difference between peak and prime. Peak Crosby would not have lost aNY art ross. But injuries derailed that. Even the season he won by 20 points was past his peakYour career is done in the late 20s? That's a cop out excuse, 28/29/30 should not be "washed up/declining" years with modern training, supplements, etc. that players in the 80s didn't have. (see also: LeBron James in the NBA at age 33 is as good as he was at age 25/26).
Crosby lost a scoring title in his prime to a Sedin.
There's just not going to be as large of seperation between players, the gap between the best and worst players has shrunk.
No one has anywhere near Gretzky's vison.I believe it was button who said.
Vision of gretzky
hands of lemieux
speed of bure
Gilbert Perreault. Man could he skate, throw in a little Bobby Orr too.