At the very least, this thread is good for a chuckle. So there's that. Gotta thank those witty leafs fans
Where would Bo Horvat slot into your teams C depth
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nowhereman
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Yes, in the magical fairy world of rainbows and marshmallows that is Leafsland. In reality, no.
Holymakinaw
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No, it's true. Horvat would be the 4th line C if he were on the Leafs. Or maybe a 3rd line Winger? Either way.
CP4
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So on teams like Pitsburgh and Tampa and Washington, all legitimate contenders, Horvat is an easy 3C. Yet on Toronto, a team arguably worse than those 3 teams Horvat is a 4C because Leaf fans.
Well that's not true, the Leafs used Kadri in a defensive role last year. Their scoring lines were centred by Matthews and Bozak. He was between Connor Brown and Kapanen, if I recall?
sure, Kadri's numbers are down this year, he is 100% strictly in a defensive role while at ES.
Well, depends what you consider plenty. Kadri has been getting PP time this year, because he is so effective on both ends. When given an offensive role, he easily thrives and scores 30+ goals.
Well that's just silly. He's gotten almost 4 minutes a game in PP time, barely touches the PK, plays with scoring line linemates.
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WalkwithElias
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Are you using Kadri’s past performance as your basis? Or are you even bothering to look at each players stats this season???? Blue and white glasses skewing your opinion I see
WingsMJN2965
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I'd put him at #2 behind Larkin, but it's very, very very close.
In all likelihood they'd be equals and would be a serious pain in the ass for the opposing team's coach trying to give his top line the best opportunity.
In all likelihood they'd be equals and would be a serious pain in the ass for the opposing team's coach trying to give his top line the best opportunity.
Martin Skoula
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Defensive role doesn't mean 3rd line. He was the 2nd line center, tasked with a 2-way role. That's how a lot of teams run their lines these days. And Kadri was doing awful offensively last year until Marner was put on his line.
Which is the role you tried to peg his production the last two years as being under. But he clearly wasn't
Yes, in an offensive role, not a 3rd line role. Glad we cleared that up
Horvat's "scoring linemates" are currently Jake Virtanen and the ghost of Loui Eriksson, and he's played all year with a mix of Tim Schaller, Antoine Roussel, and Tyler Motte. Sutter and Beagle have mixed large chunks of the year and as a result the majority of his ES time has been in a defensive role, where he's excelled.
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It’s not true at all. If your 4th line center is on pace for roughly 70 ish points, you’d have a dynasty. If you want to say he hasnt gotten there yet, then yes that’s fair. But then your also arguing Matthews is not a first line center as well since he has only had a career high of 69 points, no?
Martin Skoula
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Adjusting for the 3% increase in scoring leaguewide, he's pacing for 51-52 "adjusted" points. Sorry, my mistake, that 4 point pace drop off halfway through the season is "considerably down" lmao. Don't let the fact that he's on pace for 37 ES points compared to his 36 last year get in the way of your narrative though.
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CP4
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The messenger is spreading false info though so in this case the messenger takes the blame.
Holymakinaw
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Sure he is. Two 32-goal, 61 & 55 point seasons say so. Another 55 point season is about to happen.
Horvat Scores fewer goals, gets fewer points, and isn't as tenacious or as good defensively.
Kadri is 3C on the Leafs. Horvat doesn't take that away from him.
Horvat is 13th in goals and 22nd in points among centres. He has been our shutdown centre and has a +/- of 0 on what is supposed to be an awful team. He is a #2 on all but a couple of teams like EDM, TOR, TBL, PIT, WSH, and maybe CAL and BUF. I can't really think of anyone else that has 2 better centres than him.
Horvat is a really good player, if you don't watch the Canucks much, he will likely surprise you.
Horvat is a really good player, if you don't watch the Canucks much, he will likely surprise you.
WalkwithElias
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Lol, even as a winger he’d be better then 0 goals in 9 games NylanderNo, it's true. Horvat would be the 4th line C if he were on the Leafs. Or maybe a 3rd line Winger? Either way.
WalkwithElias
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You’re a straight up fool. Take off those homer glasses and watch other teams ?Sure he is. Two 32-goal, 61 & 55 point seasons say so. Another 55 point season is about to happen.
Horvat Scores fewer goals, gets fewer points, and isn't as tenacious or as good defensively.
Kadri is 3C on the Leafs. Horvat doesn't take that away from him.
Holymakinaw
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Hmmm.........I don't think name calling is allowed. Better watch that, Sonny.
Has Horvat ever turned in back-to-back 32 goal seasons?
No?
Talk to me when he does okay?
Exactly. Guys like @Holymakinaw and @WilliamNylander are beauties. This is fantastic entertainment watching these guys troll away, just wish our Canuck brothers would enjoy it instead of getting annoyed by it
WalkwithElias
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So a player this season who is on pace for more then 70 points is NOT better then the player THIS SEASON on pace for 50 points?? Not to mention is way older then Horvat??
CP4
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He's a notorious Leaf troll and Canucks hater, don't take what he says seriously at all.
