Where does Panarin rank among left wingers?

[JaegerDice]

Forsberg has like, the 3rd or 4th most 5v5 goals in the NHL since his rookie year.

And he plays tougher deployment than Panarin.





People putting him behind Panarin are genuinely nutty.

 

[ViD]

Forsberg has like, the 3rd or 4th most 5v5 goals in the NHL since his rookie year.

And he plays tougher deployment than Panarin.





People putting him behind Panarin are genuinely nutty.

every player has a role, Panarin is an offensive threat used a lot on PP and who produces in that role quite soundly..

Having more 5v5 goals does not make a player better, that's for sure.


Besides..

Forsberg has 69 5v5 goals in 264 games making it 0.26 GPG

Panarin has 44 5v5 goals in 162 games for 0.27 GPG

 

[sabresEH]

I would say he is the best or at least top 3 offensive LW in the game today. Because there is more to the game than offense his rating slips a bit. Still top 10 overall and top 3 offense only. I don't think anyone would be against that

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Definite top 7, probably top 5.

 

[djpatm]

Forsberg getting over rated due to playoff success.

He is not an elite point producer. His PPG wasnt even in the top 10 for LW.

Panarin is hard to judge cause he plays with Kane. Name any top line LW and imagine him with Kane. Panarin has never had to stir the drink.

 

[Senor Catface]

Forsberg getting over rated due to playoff success.

He is not an elite point producer. His PPG wasnt even in the top 10 for LW.

Panarin is hard to judge cause he plays with Kane. Name any top line LW and imagine him with Kane. Panarin has never had to stir the drink.

The last three seasons he's 27th in points for all forwards, 6th for LW's.

Seems like an odd conclusion.

 

[ViD]

Forsberg getting over rated due to playoff success.

He is not an elite point producer. His PPG wasnt even in the top 10 for LW.

Panarin is hard to judge cause he plays with Kane. Name any top line LW and imagine him with Kane. Panarin has never had to stir the drink.

Check the world championships top scorers. He's 2 PPG

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Forsberg getting over rated due to playoff success.

He is not an elite point producer. His PPG wasnt even in the top 10 for LW.

Panarin is hard to judge cause he plays with Kane. Name any top line LW and imagine him with Kane. Panarin has never had to stir the drink.

Benn has Seguin, Ovi has Backstrom, Marchand has Bergeron, and so on. Hard to only use that argument against Panarin.

 

[SnapVirus]

1. Benn
2. Marchand
3. Panarin
4. Forsberg
5. Gaudreau
6. Pacioretty
7. Hall
8. Ovechkin
9. Saad
10. Landeskog

That's my list.

Thats a good list.

 

[Jesus Take the Wheel]

every player has a role, Panarin is an offensive threat used a lot on PP and who produces in that role quite soundly..

Having more 5v5 goals does not make a player better, that's for sure.


Besides..

Forsberg has 69 5v5 goals in 264 games making it 0.26 GPG

Panarin has 44 5v5 goals in 162 games for 0.27 GPG

Theres a difference in between being used as an offensive threat and the coach having no faith to start him in the defensive zone

 

[brodano]

Thats a good list.

ovi at #8? marchy #2?

what are you guys smoking?

 

[SotasicA]

Panarin's not very good defensively. He needs to be protected. He is soft and undisciplined. Still a dangerous dangler.

He is Kane-lite.

There are more complete players I'd rank ahead of him. Stop staring at points, please.

Panarin is maybe around 5th to 8th among left wingers currently.

He will also possibly outscore all other left wingers next season, but it doesn't make the holes in his game disappear.

 

[ViD]

Panarin's not very good defensively. He needs to be protected. He is soft and undisciplined. Still a dangerous dangler.

He is Kane-lite.

There are more complete players I'd rank ahead of him. Stop staring at points, please.

Panarin is maybe around 5th to 8th among left wingers currently.

He will also possibly outscore all other left wingers next season, but it doesn't make the holes in his game disappear.

Does that mean you rank Kane as 5-8 best right wing ? Because it's exactly the same situation with him.

Interesting fact : Panarin outscored Kane at 24-25 years old

 

[Fugazy]

Top 10 for sure, maybe top 5.

 

[Morgs]

Top-5 for me. No order:

Benn
Marchand
Panarin
Ovechkin
Hall

H/M - Forsberg, Gaudreau

Really don't think people grasp how good Panarin is, and yes he would be just as good without Kane.

 

[The Best Leafs Ever]

1. Benn
2. Marchand
3. Panarin
4. Forsberg
5. Gaudreau
6. Pacioretty
7. Hall
8. Ovechkin
9. Saad
10. Landeskog

That's my list.

Where is Marleau, Zetterberg?

 

[VoynovsParoleOfficer]

Does that mean you rank Kane as 5-8 best right wing ? Because it's exactly the same situation with him.

Interesting fact : Panarin outscored Kane at 24-25 years old

no kane is the #1 RW in the league....only a handful of guys give team mates 100 percent free goals with their play making ability and even fewer of those handful of player are wingers... Kane is at the very top of that list with mcdavid, not comparable to Panarin at all

 

[FlamesFan18]

Over last three seasons I have it as (slighlty weighed towards recent seasons):
1. Marchand
2. Benn
3. Ovechkin
4. Panarin
5. Pacioretty
6. Gaudreau
7. Forsberg
8. Hoffman
9. Huberdeau
10. Hall

 

[ViD]

no kane is the #1 RW in the league....only a handful of guys give team mates 100 percent free goals with their play making ability and even fewer of those handful of player are wingers... Kane is at the very top of that list with mcdavid, not comparable to Panarin at all

What makes you think that Panarin is not just as good of a playmaker ? He just won the scoring race at the WHC racking the most assists

 

[notsocommonsense]

Check the world championships top scorers. He's 2 PPG

I'd have Panarin in my top 5 for sure.

But the WC is largely irrelevant. A top NHLer managed to produce big numbers vs substandard competition? You don't say.....

 

[VoynovsParoleOfficer]

What makes you think that Panarin is not just as good of a playmaker ? He just won the scoring race at the WHC racking the most assists

what he did in WHC was impressive for sure but ill keep it NHL specific bc Kane didnt participate....kane has 20 more primary assists than Panarin in the 2 seasons Panarin has been overseas, a fairly large differential for players who are almost always on the ice together...also has 180 more shots taken in those 2 seasons which factors largely into play making

 

[ViD]

what he did in WHC was impressive for sure but ill keep it NHL specific bc Kane didnt participate....kane has 20 more primary assists than Panarin in the 2 seasons Panarin has been overseas, a fairly large differential for players who are almost always on the ice together...also has 180 more shots taken in those 2 seasons which factors largely into play making

He's also older, more experienced and gets more ice time.

Panarin outscored Kane at 24-25.

 

[VoynovsParoleOfficer]

He's also older, more experienced and gets more ice time.

Panarin outscored Kane at 24-25.

alright, but yet Kane had 88 points at the age of 22 and 72 points as a 19 year old rookie.. you cant just pick Kane's worst year and use it as a basis

 

[SotasicA]

Does that mean you rank Kane as 5-8 best right wing ? Because it's exactly the same situation with him.

Interesting fact : Panarin outscored Kane at 24-25 years old

Kane is better offensively than Panarin, so the comparison is slightly off. It's not "exactly the same", but yeah, it does apply to him. Kane is not a complete hockey player.

 

[sabresEH]

I'd have Panarin in my top 5 for sure.

But the WC is largely irrelevant. A top NHLer managed to produce big numbers vs substandard competition? You don't say.....

Thank you...finally someone said it. He kept brining up the WHC point totals as if they should mean something. While 17 in 9(not quite 2 ppg ) is very impressive we need to look at the context of it. 11 of the 17 pts came against Italy, Germany, and Latvia. So of the other 5 games he played(didn't play against Slovakia I believe it was) he had 6 pts. Over a PPG is impressive but not top LW in the NHL worthy.