Shouldn't this simply be re-worded into yet another "Crosby vs Ovi" thread?
At least until McDavid has been around long enough to possibly make a race of it.
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LOLI feel like I have answered this exact question at least 50times in the last 10 years
gimme a break.... another Crosby hater. Dunno how you people can call yourselves hockey fans. Pathetic.Ovechkin number 1 pretty clearly - the face of NHL internationally. Crosby fans can only make the "shoulda, coulda, woulda arguments".
30 years from now people will still be talking about Ovie as GOAT goal scorer and his phenomenal peak years while Crosby’s name likely will gradually fade
Lol sure the guy who has back to back smythes and the golden goal for canada "will gradually fade" and thats not even counting the rest of his accolades
Crosby's 2016 playoffs - a pace of 65 points and 21 goals as a minus player - is a pretty weak argument.
And his Olympic run where he was nowhere near the best player on the team with a 0.5 PPG and a 0.17 GPG. Oh man what a legendary run.
It's going to be a heavy lift for the Canadian hockey media to continue to prop up these achievements for decades as if they weigh more than an extra Hart trophy and 7 additional rockets.
People say stupid things all the time. Why would we be surprised?Will it really be that surprising if some people say Datsyuk is better than one or both?
He has his crew on here.
Crosby's 2016 playoffs - a pace of 65 points and 21 goals as a minus player - is a pretty weak argument.
And his Olympic run where he was nowhere near the best player on the team with a 0.5 PPG and a 0.17 GPG. Oh man what a legendary run.
It's going to be a heavy lift for the Canadian hockey media to continue to prop up these achievements for decades as if they weigh more than an extra Hart trophy and 7 additional rockets.
2006/07 ArtLaughable
2006/07 Art
120 Points; 38 P (31.7%) assisted by Malkin. If there was another player on 80% as good as Malkin, Art Ross would go to Thornton
2009/10 Rocket
51 Goals; 17 G (33.3%) assisted by Malkin. If there was another player on 93% as good as Malkin, Stamkos wouldn't share Rocket.
And you're going to say Ovie deserved his CS over Kuzy of course even though he had inferior numbers.Crosby's 2016 playoffs - a pace of 65 points and 21 goals as a minus player - is a pretty weak argument.
And his Olympic run where he was nowhere near the best player on the team with a 0.5 PPG and a 0.17 GPG. Oh man what a legendary run.
It's going to be a heavy lift for the Canadian hockey media to continue to prop up these achievements for decades as if they weigh more than an extra Hart trophy and 7 additional rockets.
What a joke.... You actually call yourself a hockey fan? What a dumb statement.30 years from now people will still be talking about Ovie as GOAT goal scorer and his phenomenal peak years while Crosby’s name likely will gradually fade
gimme a break.... another Crosby hater. Dunno how you people can call yourselves hockey fans. Pathetic.
the guy is 6th all time in PPG over 984GP, all in a low scoring era. 3 Cups, 2 Conn Smythes.
Ovie hasnt even been a top 10 scorer for 6 seasons now. Hes a clear tier below Sid since 2015 or so.
No woulda shoulda coulda there.
You call him a Crosby hater but comments like this make you come across as a OV hater.
14/15: 2-5
15/16: 6-2
16/17: 12-2
17/18: 9-17
18/19: 7-2
19/20: 13-N/A
Average: 8-6 (not factoring in last season for Crosby which would make his average worse than OV).
Those are their hart finishes since 2015. I'm not sure where you're getting a "clear tier below" from especially considering Crosby has by far the 2 worst finishes between them (17/18 & 19/20). If you want to say Crosby has been better that's one thing, but a different tier is just wrong.
And you're going to say Ovie deserved his CS over Kuzy of course even though he had inferior numbers.
Hart voting placement has no relevance after the first 4 or 5 players. You can't average this out lol. Crosby has 3 relevant years. Ovechkin has 1. He also said since 2015. So it's 3 to 0
It's not hard to average it out. Between the two of them, OV is the last one to finish as the highest ranked skater. Crosby in his runner up years finished so far behind 1st that he's just as irrelevant as everyone else.