Speculation: When is the end of the Hawks' Cup window?

[No Fun Shogun]

So you're taking credit for predicting that a goalie would have a bad game eventually?

 

[TorMenT]

So you're taking credit for predicting that a goalie would have a bad game eventually?

Doesn't matter that he was wrong about Crawford's other X amount of starts, he FINALLY got one right!

 

[piteus]

So you're taking credit for predicting that a goalie would have a bad game eventually?

I predict Brent Seabrook will have a bad game in the very near future.

 

[LDF]

I predict Brent Seabrook will have a bad game in the very near future.

very good !!!

 

[No Fun Shogun]

I predict Brent Seabrook will have a bad game in the very near future.

Well, slight difference between predicting that water will be wet (Seabs) versus it'll eventually rain one day (Crow).

 

[Blackhawks]

Doesn't matter that he was wrong about Crawford's other X amount of starts, he FINALLY got one right!

Tell me what I have been wrong on since this is the "finally" moment and you have kept track or the horde of times I have been wrong, please include at least 5 examples, I will be waiting

 

[JaegerDice]

Tell me what I have been wrong on since this is the "finally" moment and you have kept track or the horde of times I have been wrong, please include at least 5 examples, I will be waiting

Well, just off the top of my head, every single time you've said Corey Crawford isn't a great goaltender.

That should be good for roughly 1000 examples of you being provably wrong.

Happy to help.

 

[Ace Card Bedard]

I believe if the young guys turn out to be difference makers (like they have for the Penguins) This group will have a few more shots at a cup in another year or two.

Schmaltz, Hartman, Murphy, Forsling, etc.

 

[Robsker]

I believe if the young guys turn out to be difference makers (like they have for the Penguins) This group will have a few more shots at a cup in another year or two.

Schmaltz, Hartman, Murphy, Forsling, etc.

true enough... if these guys can play like their young counterparts at Pitt --- but I doubt that they can. They are not --- as a group --- the same level as those in Pitt that have stepped up. Further, if you are 2 years out for the proposed Cup run, you will need a goalie. Now Crow is great... but he is getting old --- any sustained run starting two years after this one will as well need probably 2 new goalies --- one very good starter and one very good backup. We may (or may not) have those people in the system. Pitt had a magic goalie appear out of nowhere... we will need something of that as well. Again... doubtful, but possible.

 

[LDF]

true enough... if these guys can play like their young counterparts at Pitt --- but I doubt that they can. They are not --- as a group --- the same level as those in Pitt that have stepped up. Further, if you are 2 years out for the proposed Cup run, you will need a goalie. Now Crow is great... but he is getting old --- any sustained run starting two years after this one will as well need probably 2 new goalies --- one very good starter and one very good backup. We may (or may not) have those people in the system. Pitt had a magic goalie appear out of nowhere... we will need something of that as well. Again... doubtful, but possible.

i really don't agree with the idea of an absence of a viable goalie. chi has always seems to find these franchise kind of goalies.

if they do have this of goalie now in the system, i really don't know, but finding a backup would be easy.

 

[LordKOTL]

true enough... if these guys can play like their young counterparts at Pitt --- but I doubt that they can. They are not --- as a group --- the same level as those in Pitt that have stepped up. Further, if you are 2 years out for the proposed Cup run, you will need a goalie. Now Crow is great... but he is getting old --- any sustained run starting two years after this one will as well need probably 2 new goalies --- one very good starter and one very good backup. We may (or may not) have those people in the system. Pitt had a magic goalie appear out of nowhere... we will need something of that as well. Again... doubtful, but possible.

You do realize that the best goalie year ever was done by a guy in his late 30's, right?

 

[hawksfan50]

So Joh Dietz reports Keith told him he wolkd lije to play till age 45 ..Remember that Keith will be 39 when his 13 year deal ends 5 seasons after this current season ....that woukd be after tge 2022-23 season...To extend him even 1 year year stating 2023/24 seems unthinkable now let alone expecting yearly extentions till age 45...I doubt in his final current deal season in 2022/23 that he will be playing in the top 4 anymore ...perhaps not even in tge 3rd pairing. ..Probably a 6th D-man playing sparingly. I JUST DO NOT SEE a CHELIOS situation of top 2 or 3 competency by 2022/233...
Sorry but I do not see his wish getting full filed. .When the 13th year of his deal is over ...ge shoukd ve over and ...out!

 

[Blue Liner]

Keith is a cyborg and will probably be in great shape still at that age but his style of game will take a big hit as he ages. So much of his game is predicated on speed, quick bursts, etc. It's hard for those things not to fade with age and I don't know how he adapts when that happens. Not saying he can't, it's just an unknown. Even though we've seen it with a handful of guys (Chelios, Lidstrom, Jagr off the top of my head), the reality is being an effective NHL player into your 40's is extremely rare.

 

[LDF]

Keith is a cyborg and will probably be in great shape still at that age but his style of game will take a big hit as he ages. So much of his game is predicated on speed, quick bursts, etc. It's hard for those things not to fade with age and I don't know how he adapts when that happens. Not saying he can't, it's just an unknown. Even though we've seen it with a handful of guys (Chelios, Lidstrom, Jagr off the top of my head), the reality is being an effective NHL player into your 40's is extremely rare.

i don't know about keith and 40's. it is evident that he is starting to show his downward spiral. in the coming yrs he will not be a 1-2 type of d-man ..... i just don't know.

 

[JaegerDice]

Players always say they feel great right up until the day they retire.

At the end of last season, Seabrook said he still feels like he has a lot of hockey left in him, a lot more to give.

Spoiler: He doesn't.

Keith will get to a point where he can't go anymore, and it's already approaching. I say he's probably done as a top 4 guy by 36-37, tops. And even that is a testament to his freakish physical ability.