Speculation: What would you pay Larkin on an extension?

[saska sault]

Larkin has been doing nothing but improving his value, if we can get him at 9.0... lets just sign the deal and get on with it. I was pretty against it but these last 5 games have softened me. I want meaningful hockey again. Im ready to be hurt.

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

8.875x8 But then you've gotta get his teammates to agree to jersey number salaries too. So Seider 8/53, Raymond 5/23,

 

[norrisnick]

8.875x8 But then you've gotta get his teammates to agree to jersey number salaries too. So Seider 8/53, Raymond 5/23,

Those are like $2M/yr low. I'd be thrilled, but I have doubts.

 

[Frk It]

Larkin has been doing nothing but improving his value, if we can get him at 9.0... lets just sign the deal and get on with it. I was pretty against it but these last 5 games have softened me. I want meaningful hockey again. Im ready to be hurt.

 

[Hen Kolland]

I just have this fantasy where Yzerman and Larkin are screwing around on some gentleman's bet bullshit.

Yzerman:
"We both know neither of us will walk away without a deal, so wanna make a bet on it? You finish at a point per game level and we make the playoffs, I give you the $9. If one of those happen, we settle at $8.5. If neither happen, you accept my $8."

Larkin:

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

Watch us give Larkin 9x8 then he is miraculously back to hurt or long scoring droughts.... I DO NOT TRUST pending UFA high level production from players.....

 

[saska sault]

Watch us give Larkin 9x8 then he is miraculously back to hurt or long scoring droughts.... I DO NOT TRUST pending UFA high level production from players.....

Dont you put that evil on me Ricky Bobby.

 

[Hen Kolland]

Watch us give Larkin 9x8 then he is miraculously back to hurt or long scoring droughts.... I DO NOT TRUST pending UFA high level production from players.....

It’s too bad that he doesn’t have a couple of other 30 goal seasons near a point per game clip….oh wait. This looks like it will be his third.

Don’t pretend that this is somehow new or that his current season that projects to 32 goals and 85 points in 82 games is somehow significantly different than his season last year that equated to 35 goals and 80 points in 82 games.

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

I don’t think that this stretch is pushing his value up anywhere near as much as anyone may be thinking. Conversely, had he gone on a fifteen game scoring drought, i don’t think that affects it badly either.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I don’t think that this stretch is pushing his value up anywhere near as much as anyone may be thinking. Conversely, had he gone on a fifteen game scoring drought, i don’t think that affects it badly either.

This.

On a bad team with little to no support Larkin is a 60-70 point center, as we've seen.

With more support Larkin is a 70+ point center in a healthy year.

I think we're going to see production more similar to this current version of Larkin moving forward as the team around him gets better.

 

[dalem177]

I have not read the whole thread, so if this has been asked and answered just point me there. But.

When I was in Ann Arbor getting introduced to hockey and the Red Wings in 95 or 96, my buddy told me something along the lines of "that's Steve Yzerman. He came in the league hot and his coach/owner/whatever said 'you can be a 50 goal a year guy on a losing team or learn how to play both ends and be a 40 goal a year guy on a winning team.'"

Or something to that effect.

Assuming that's vaguely accurate - and I know that was the pre-cap era so maybe comparisons are meaningless - but were there other times where SY sacrificed notoriety or salary for the team?

I ask because everything I know about professional hockey beyond liking to watch games is in between these two parentheses: ( ).

Could SY be testing Larks in the "if leading this team to a Cup is so important to you, are you going to do it for a squinch less money?" sense?

 

[norrisnick]

I have not read the whole thread, so if this has been asked and answered just point me there. But.

When I was in Ann Arbor getting introduced to hockey and the Red Wings in 95 or 96, my buddy told me something along the lines of "that's Steve Yzerman. He came in the league hot and his coach/owner/whatever said 'you can be a 50 goal a year guy on a losing team or learn how to play both ends and be a 40 goal a year guy on a winning team.'"

Or something to that effect.

Assuming that's vaguely accurate - and I know that was the pre-cap era so maybe comparisons are meaningless - but were there other times where SY sacrificed notoriety or salary for the team?

I ask because everything I know about professional hockey beyond liking to watch games is in between these two parentheses: ( ).

Could SY be testing Larks in the "if leading this team to a Cup is so important to you, are you going to do it for a squinch less money?" sense?

Rules were different then. Legend is always stated that the stars "took less" to allow the ridiculousness of the '01-02 team. But reality was that some of the key players took deferred payment. It got delayed but they still got their money.

 

[jkutswings]

I think we're going to see production more similar to this current version of Larkin moving forward as the team around him gets better.

Just think of his production once they bring in Pasta.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Just think of his production once they bring in Pasta.

 

[dalem177]

I don't think that would be a horror film though.

 

[SoupNazi]

Just think of his production once they bring in Pasta.

Don't you toy with my heart unless you want to get banned.

 

[jkutswings]

Don't you toy with my heart unless you want to get banned.

Pfft, right. As if you could possibly just make me disapp...

 

[Perfect Human]

The trade proposals on the main boards for Larkin are comical.

 

[SoupNazi]

The trade proposals on the main boards for Larkin are comical.

The one for him and Bert to Carolina is...

 

[norrisnick]

The one for him and Bert to Carolina is...

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Followed closely by Larkin and a 1st for JT f'n Miller and I don't even give a shit about the rest of it...

 

[Perfect Human]

The one for him and Bert to Carolina is...

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Jesperi can be our first line center!

 

[SoupNazi]

Jesperi can be our first line center!

The thing is...Kotkaniemi isn't even that bad.

But losing 2/3 of a line at once is oof. That trade isn't good for either team.

 

[Perfect Human]

Followed closely by Larkin and a 1st for JT f'n Miller and I don't even give a shit about the rest of it...

How could we forget, JT Miller is the kind of player both Yzerman AND LaLonde want...

The thing is...Kotkaniemi isn't even that bad.

But losing 2/3 of a line at once is oof. That trade isn't good for either team.

Kotkaniemi does not seem like a first line center though

 

[SoupNazi]

Kotkaniemi does not seem like a first line center though

He could be the tank commander.

 

[norrisnick]

Kotkewhatever was drafted ahead of Zadina with pretty much equal career PPG and makes almost three times as much money.

The wailing around here would be unbearable.