The price on Oshie is probably too high. I'd be interested but I don't even know what I'd be willing to give up. Probably not what the Blues want. Maybe out 2nd first and a lesser prospect.
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BrindamoursNose
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I would just wait for two awful seasons in a row before I'm saying Semin wouldn't be much more useful than Lecavalier.
CodyTheHuman
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If it were straight up Oshie for Read I would do that easily. I highly doubt that gets it done though.
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C or RW, mainly RW though. The only thing that makes sense is Read+
I'd easily do a + of Umberger, Grossmann, MacDonald, Lecavalier, etc
edit: Oshie is easily one of my favorite players in the league. Has been before the '14 Olys...but I have no interest in overpaying for him.
CodyTheHuman
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Steen and Backes are both 3 years older and have higher cap hits than Oshie. I suspect the Blues would want more for Steen, as well. As for where he fits, I'm not sure.
Raffl - Giroux - Voracek
Schenn - Couturier - Oshie
Maybe Schenn could try LW again. I don't know. Maybe Oshie can play LW.
LegionOfDoom91
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Makes no sense for the Flyers or Blues for that matter as they're both looking for the same thing (younger players on cheap contracts). The Blues could get better returns around the league than that too if they move Backes & Oshie.
Backes literally makes zero sense for the Flyers given he's a 31 year old center who's entering the last year of his current contract.
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Wild fan in peace
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So I've been wondering if the Flyers would consider trading Brayden Schenn. Granted, I know just the basics about the buildup of your team, and that your center depth (at first glance) appears to be relatively solid. With Giroux, Laughton, Couterier, Lecavalier, and Schenn... it would appear (again, at first glance) that you could afford to trade a center. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
However, if I were you guys, I'd probably look to offload Lecavalier first before Schenn. So maybe I'm wasting my time in asking.
Just looking for some information, thank you very much!
Wild fan in peace
. So I've been wondering if the Flyers would consider trading Brayden Schenn. Granted, I know just the basics about the buildup of your team, and that your center depth (at first glance) appears to be relatively solid. With Giroux, Laughton, Couterier, Lecavalier, and Schenn... it would appear (again, at first glance) that you could afford to trade a center. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
However, if I were you guys, I'd probably look to offload Lecavalier first before Schenn. So maybe I'm wasting my time in asking
. Just looking for some information, thank you very much!
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Hey guys!
Wild fan in peace
So I've been wondering if the Flyers would consider trading Brayden Schenn. Granted, I know just the basics about the buildup of your team, and that your center depth (at first glance) appears to be relatively solid. With Giroux, Laughton, Couterier, Lecavalier, and Schenn... it would appear (again, at first glance) that you could afford to trade a center. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
However, if I were you guys, I'd probably look to offload Lecavalier first before Schenn. So maybe I'm wasting my time in asking
Just looking for some information, thank you very much!
We would definitely unload Schenn in the right deal but cant take back a big contract and arent looking for aging veterans. Any ideas?
Hmmmm, well I DO know this:
Jared Spurgeon (RD) is available, but he is an RFA after the 15-16 season, so you'd have to worry about an extension.
I realize this is pretty similar to Schenn as, if he were traded, the team he would be traded to would also have to worry about an extension. Spurgeon's current cap hit is 2.667 and I believe Schenn's is 2.5? So the cap hits cancel each other out.
However, and this is strictly IMO, I don't think Spurgeon alone gets Schenn (other Wild fans may disagree, but whatever
). Could a deal be had centered around these two? I'm thinking maybe we add our 2nd this year (as our GM has been infatuated with trading our 2nds for other years for poor TDL acquisitions, but I digress...).
I've thought about MAYBE adding Coyle to the mix too, but then you may be taking on too much salary, and that point, I think we'd be paying too much for Schenn. What's your thoughts
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CodyTheHuman
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Hmmmm, well I DO know this:
Jared Spurgeon (RD) is available, but he is an RFA after the 15-16 season, so you'd have to worry about an extension.
I realize this is pretty similar to Schenn as, if he were traded, the team he would be traded to would also have to worry about an extension. Spurgeon's current cap hit is 2.667 and I believe Schenn's is 2.5? So the cap hits cancel each other out.
However, and this is strictly IMO, I don't think Spurgeon alone gets Schenn (other Wild fans may disagree, but whatever
Could a deal be had centered around these two? I'm thinking maybe we add our 2nd this year (as our GM has been infatuated with trading our 2nds for other years for poor TDL acquisitions, but I digress...).
I've thought about MAYBE adding Coyle to the mix too, but then you may be taking on too much salary, and that point, I think we'd be paying too much for Schenn. What's your thoughts
All the stats show that Spurgeon makes the team significantly better while he's on the ice. Why would you want to trade him?
Because he is a chip we have that could improve our center depth, which we desperately need. Koivu is aging at a much faster rate than expected, and frankly, has become no more than a defensive face-off specialist. It's such a shame to watch, but he really is our third line center (whether people will admit it or not).
The real problem is we can neither afford, nor trade, for a legitimate first line Center (like a Giroux), so we would prefer to acquire solid, young centers with some potential to improve (like Granlund).
What makes Spurgeon expendable (although with some risk) is Dumba. Not only is Dumba cheaper, he has many of the offensive elements that Spurgeon has and really showed glimpses stardom in the last half of our season.
Add all this to the fact that we have to extend Dubnyk (or another goalie), Granlund, AND Spurgeon, and we have a relatively serious cap crunch we're facing. We're not happy with such a significant portion of our cap being sucked up between Koivu, Vanek, and Pominville. But I don't see any team taking on those players (and respective contracts) especially for a young center or forward.
I'm sure we would consider it, but defense is a position of strength we'd much rather deal from.
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I'd love for Hextall to grab Galchenyuk if his relationship with Montreal continues to sour. He seems like a perfect fit.
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Gonna try something here,
Grossmann for a 3rd round pick.
Luke, Brayden, and said 3rd round pick to Avs for ROR.
Semin ($2.0m retained) for Vinny.
5th rounder for the rights to Gustavsson
Draft, Ivan Provorov and Mackenzie Blackwood.
Sign Thomas Raffl
Semin - Giroux - Voracek
O'Reilly - Couturier - Simmonds
Umberger - Laughton - Read
M.Raffl - Bellemare - T.Raffl
Rinaldo
Streit - MacDonald
DelZotto - Schultz
Provorov - Medvedev
Gudas
Mason
Gustavsson
I think all of these moves make us better. Sets up a nice top 6 of the future, and a 4th line of speedy and talented Euros that can stay cost controlled, playing their natural positions with clear defined roles who can play a very good defensive game. (VV and White are UFA as well.) Last time I checked, the Flyers were in talks with Thomas Raffl via an Austrian newspaper.
Semin will find his mojo again with G and V, with their elite playmaking and puck carrying skills.
We still have Umberger and MacD, but I believe the latter will bring back his game. Maybe even Umby will to, due to his apparent foot injury he played through a majority of the season. Our bottom 6 will have no problem playing well defensively, and neither will our 2nd line with Couturier and ROR tbh.
Grossmann for a 3rd round pick.
Luke, Brayden, and said 3rd round pick to Avs for ROR.
Semin ($2.0m retained) for Vinny.
5th rounder for the rights to Gustavsson
Draft, Ivan Provorov and Mackenzie Blackwood.
Sign Thomas Raffl
Semin - Giroux - Voracek
O'Reilly - Couturier - Simmonds
Umberger - Laughton - Read
M.Raffl - Bellemare - T.Raffl
Rinaldo
Streit - MacDonald
DelZotto - Schultz
Provorov - Medvedev
Gudas
Mason
Gustavsson
I think all of these moves make us better. Sets up a nice top 6 of the future, and a 4th line of speedy and talented Euros that can stay cost controlled, playing their natural positions with clear defined roles who can play a very good defensive game. (VV and White are UFA as well.) Last time I checked, the Flyers were in talks with Thomas Raffl via an Austrian newspaper.
Semin will find his mojo again with G and V, with their elite playmaking and puck carrying skills.
We still have Umberger and MacD, but I believe the latter will bring back his game. Maybe even Umby will to, due to his apparent foot injury he played through a majority of the season. Our bottom 6 will have no problem playing well defensively, and neither will our 2nd line with Couturier and ROR tbh.
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BringBackHakstol
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You just tied up ~12 million on 2 players. Voracek and Couturier need extensions
No way I touch anything like that. You just killed all cap flexibility Hextall has been moving to obtain.
Read + Cousins + (29) To ST LOUIS for Oshie + 3rd
Flyers would Trade 3rd + 4th 2016 to VANCOUVER for Lack
Grossmann + L. Schenn would be traded for 2nd/3rd/MidLevelProspects
Draft Zacha
2015/16
Raffl-Giroux-Voracek
Simmonds-Laughton-Oshie
White-Couturier-Schenn
Umberger-Bellemare-VandeVelde
Schultz-Streit
Del Zotto-Medvedev
Macdonald-Gudas
Mason
Lack
Flyers would Trade 3rd + 4th 2016 to VANCOUVER for Lack
Grossmann + L. Schenn would be traded for 2nd/3rd/MidLevelProspects
Draft Zacha
2015/16
Raffl-Giroux-Voracek
Simmonds-Laughton-Oshie
White-Couturier-Schenn
Umberger-Bellemare-VandeVelde
Schultz-Streit
Del Zotto-Medvedev
Macdonald-Gudas
Mason
Lack
BrindamoursNose
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I genuinely believe trading Matt Read is a mistake. He had 1 down year, is still young, and if he goes back to being the guy from years before, is probably a bargain of a contract.
BringBackHakstol
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Why are we trading 1of only 2 of our decent LW's for a RW that we don't need?
What's the point of giving up two decent picks for a backup when one can be signed on the market?
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