Speculation: What Would You Do This Off-Season? Part Two

[Prongo]

Freidman saying Jeff Skinner name might be out there.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/30-thoughts-trade-talk-beginning-to-heat-up/

Skinner’s name is out there, I think, because, unlike some of his teammates, he does not have no-trade protection. His cap hit is $5.725M. He’s 23, one year removed from a 33-goal season. Health is a concern, but he has played 190 of Carolina’s past 212 games. You can see why other teams would query. Former GM Jim Rutherford did explore the market on Skinner at least once.

Also, something I would seriously consider if we can move a few more bodies is this.

Another Hurricane rumour is the club would consider packaging Alexander Semin with the fifth overall pick to get his contract off the books. History suggests that is very unlikely. Last year, Calgary said it would acquire Cam Ward as long as the seventh selection was included with it. GM Ron Francis declined. As much as the organization would love to move Semin, this draft pick is way too important to give away in a salary dump. It’s got to be a significant, legit hockey trade if at all.

I would take his contract in a second if we get assets coming back with it. Play him in a scoring role with a defensively sound player like Couts and maybe we see both shine? It would be something I would explore no doubt though.

 

[GKJ]

I wouldn't mind Semin just because I'd love to hear Keith Jones biting his tongue for 3 years

 

[Friulian Flyers]

From Eklund:

On Mikko Koivu....

The Canadiens are still very interested and the Flyers are also jumping into this I am told. It would appear that any Koivu trade would go down at the draft or after...not likely prior.

Not sure what to make of this. Eklund had seemingly been more accurate with Flyers rumors in the past, but with Hextall's tight ship, I'm doubting the believability of this.

 

[Random Forest]

I'm a big fan of Koivu, but he is not worth his cap hit. If they're willing to sell low on him and take back one of our bad contracts, then sure, but otherwise, no thanks.

EDIT: Also, I would be a big fan of Semin + 5th for MacDonald + 7th.

 

[GKJ]

Whenever Eklund wants some hits, just throw out the Canadiens and Flyers. Canadiens brings people out in droves, and people feel he has a shred of credibility when it comes to the Flyers. The well never runs dry

 

[Garbage Goal]

Whenever Eklund wants some hits, just throw out the Canadiens and Flyers. Canadiens brings people out in droves, and people feel he has a shred of credibility when it comes to the Flyers. The well never runs dry

For which I can't fathom why.

It's Eklund. That's all you need to know about his "rumours".

 

[Curufinwe]

Semin ($2.5m retained) for Vinny.

 

[Prongo]

For which I can't fathom why.

It's Eklund. That's all you need to know about his "rumours".

Eklund broke Richards trade and Coburn extension before mainstream did. I think luuko was his source though because it's been swing and misses since then.

 

[GKJ]

One thing he did when the Flyers signed Michael Leighton to backup Bryz was come out 10 minutes before and say something like "the Flyers are bringing back a VERY familiar name," we all knew what that meant, but he still didn't even want to say his name just in case it was wrong

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I'm a big fan of Koivu, but he is not worth his cap hit. If they're willing to sell low on him and take back one of our bad contracts, then sure, but otherwise, no thanks.

That's where I am at & really the only way I could see Hextall legitimately going through with a trade for him.

If that's the case than it does have some upside in regards to our lineup flexibility. He is reliable defensively as well as at the faceoff dot which could take pressure off Giroux.

 

[GingerFetish]

If we'd be after Koivu, Laughton would stay in Lehigh?

 

[FLYguy3911]

No guarantee Laughton's in the NHL to start either way.

 

[CodyTheHuman]

I'm not sure we would want a 32 year old center with a 6.75M cap hit that runs to the 17-18 season. Plus, he has a NMC

 

[Rebels57]

Cant say how there would be any interest in Koivu from the Flyers unless Minnesota was willing to take MacDonald or Lecavaliers contract back, and that just makes no sense. Koivu is the type of guy you add for secondary scoring when youre contending.

 

[dingbathero]

Offer sheet Kruger from the Hawks.

Raffl- Giroux- Voracek
Schenn- Coots- Read
Laughton - Kruger- Simmonds
VDV - PEB - White

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Semin ($2.5m retained) for Vinny.

Where's the incentive for Carolina?

 

[Curufinwe]

Where's the incentive for Carolina?

They save $5,000,000.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

They save $5,000,000.

I'm assuming you mean 5 Mill in real money.

I can't see that being it for Carolina. I think other team's can definitely offer much better. If anything, I'd be willing to swap Vinny for Semin straight up. No need for retaining since we're getting an actual, usable player at a position we need.

 

[Tripod]

On the main boards, I said:

#5 and Semin

For

#7, Umberger and Pronger.

It saves them 11 million in real money and since they are not a cap team, who cares about Pronger.

We get a LW to try and resurrect and move up to 5 to get the guy we want.

 

[Curufinwe]

I'm assuming you mean 5 Mill in real money.

I can't see that being it for Carolina. I think other team's can definitely offer much better. If anything, I'd be willing to swap Vinny for Semin straight up. No need for retaining since we're getting an actual, usable player at a position we need.

Usable based on what? His last season was no better than Vinny's.

Adding $2.5m in cap for three seasons is a terrible idea with all the big raises that Voracek, Couturier, Schenn and Raffl need next summer.

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

Usable based on what? His last season was no better than Vinny's.

Adding $2.5m in cap for three seasons is a terrible idea with all the big raises that Voracek, Couturier, Schenn and Raffl need next summer.

He was playing on a pretty awful team. I don't expect him to put great numbers, but I think he could be a 40-50 point player on this team. He had 86 points in his last 109 games before last season. Do you really think that he is finished because he had a down year playing with the offensive juggernauts Jeff Skinner and Riley Nash (and only getting 83 minutes of PP time)?

EDIT: Health would be my biggest concern. Looks like he never played a full 82.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Usable based on what? His last season was no better than Vinny's.

Adding $2.5m in cap for three seasons is a terrible idea with all the big raises that Voracek, Couturier, Schenn and Raffl need next summer.

Based off of nearly every one of his previous seasons. I also believe Matt Read can be pretty successful despite his awful last season.

I agree on needing to re-sign those other players, but to me there's still no comparison to he and Vinny in usability on this team (for sure).

 

[Curufinwe]

Semin's good seasons came before he had wrist surgery.

 

[renberg]

The always unreliable Eklund is posting that Oshie may be on the block to go to Pittsburgh. Would the Flyers want him? What would be a reasonable off for him?

 

[Curufinwe]

Read.